Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bastien writes: I find it hard to draw a clear line between regressions and bugs, especially since Org 7.9.x versions are way behind the current Org master branch. A regression is a feature that is missing, incomplete, or buggy in the current HEAD that was present, complete, and correct in

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Xue Fuqiao writes: On 03/08/2013 02:40 PM, Bastien wrote: I missed the distinction between pretest and release candidate. What's the difference between pretest and release candidate? A release candidate may be considered to be a kind of pretest. The difference (as Glenn already

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Leo Liu sdl@gmail.com Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:16:57 +0800 Cc: emacs-de...@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Lele Gaifax l...@metapensiero.it Bundling [org-mode] in emacs doesn't help anybody. You never had to work for an organization whose network is closed to outside

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:47:57 +0800 From: Xue Fuqiao xfq.f...@gmail.com Cc: Bastien b...@altern.org, emacs-de...@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Lele Gaifax l...@metapensiero.it On 03/08/2013 02:40 PM, Bastien wrote: I missed the distinction between pretest and release candidate.

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:27:56 +0900 Cc: Lele Gaifax l...@metapensiero.it, emacs-de...@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Bastien b...@altern.org [...] in a release candidate the release engineer proposes to make exactly one change before

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Bastien
Thanks all for the answers, quite educational to me (at least). -- Bastien

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread joakim
Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org writes: From: Leo Liu sdl@gmail.com Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:16:57 +0800 Cc: emacs-de...@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Lele Gaifax l...@metapensiero.it Bundling [org-mode] in emacs doesn't help anybody. You never had to work for an organization

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Bastien
Hi Joakim, joa...@verona.se writes: Just a small reminder of the idea Stefan sometimes drops in these discussions: - Emacs trunk could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve bootstrap. - distribution tarballs could be made from trunk+elpa. Since I dont do releases for Emacs

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Bastien
joa...@verona.se writes: Just a small reminder of the idea Stefan sometimes drops in these discussions: - Emacs trunk could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve bootstrap. - distribution tarballs could be made from trunk+elpa. PS: This is similar to my plan of creating

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
joa...@verona.se writes: Just a small reminder of the idea Stefan sometimes drops in these discussions: - Emacs trunk could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve bootstrap. I don't know that I'd go so far as to include all of CC-mode, but more than once I've missed some

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: joa...@verona.se Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:15:07 +0100 Cc: b...@gnu.org, l...@metapensiero.it, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Leo Liu sdl@gmail.com, emacs-de...@gnu.org - Emacs trunk could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve bootstrap. - distribution tarballs

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Dmitry Gutov dgu...@yandex.ru Cc: Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org, b...@gnu.org, l...@metapensiero.it, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Leo Liu sdl@gmail.com, emacs-de...@gnu.org Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:25:16 +0400 joa...@verona.se writes: Just a small reminder of the idea Stefan

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Dmitry Gutov dgu...@yandex.ru Cc: l...@metapensiero.it, joa...@verona.se, emacs-de...@gnu.org, b...@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, sdl@gmail.com Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:18:19 +0400 I like the idea of stripping big bundled packages (like org, gnus, cedet, maybe even

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Xue Fuqiao
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:15:07 +0100 joa...@verona.se wrote: Just a small reminder of the idea Stefan sometimes drops in these discussions: - Emacs trunk could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve bootstrap. - distribution tarballs could be made from trunk+elpa. Since I dont

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Bastien
Hi Xue, Xue Fuqiao xfq.f...@gmail.com writes: Sounds fine to me, because my Internet connection is very slow (especially to Savannah). It is often a pain for me to perform a `bzr pull', since it takes a long time. Well, that's more an argument for switching to hg or git for Emacs repo, not

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hi Xue, Xue Fuqiao xfq.f...@gmail.com writes: Sounds fine to me, because my Internet connection is very slow (especially to Savannah). It is often a pain for me to perform a `bzr pull', since it takes a long time. Well, that's more an argument for

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Jambunathan K
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: There *is* a git mirror for emacs: git://repo.or.cz/emacs.git. This one is from savannah http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git --

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Bastien
Hi Nick, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hi Xue, Xue Fuqiao xfq.f...@gmail.com writes: Sounds fine to me, because my Internet connection is very slow (especially to Savannah). It is often a pain for me to perform a `bzr pull', since it takes

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Bastien
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: There *is* a git mirror for emacs: git://repo.or.cz/emacs.git. This one is from savannah http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git Great minds think alike!! :) -- Bastien

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: There *is* a git mirror for emacs: git://repo.or.cz/emacs.git. This one is from savannah http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git Great minds think

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Jambunathan K
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: There *is* a git mirror for emacs: git://repo.or.cz/emacs.git. This one is from savannah

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Nick Dokos
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote: So two questions: o is the savannah repo http only? o and if so, it used to be the case that http was much slower than git - is that still the case? Bzr user here. May be try one of these? ,

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:34:42 +0100 Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org In any case, doing the built-in packages this way (or something similar) takes a lot of unecessary churn and merges out of the release process and I would think that would be a clear

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Dmitry Gutov
joa...@verona.se writes: Just a small reminder of the idea Stefan sometimes drops in these discussions: - Emacs trunk could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve bootstrap. I like the idea of stripping big bundled packages (like org, gnus, cedet, maybe even tramp, if that's

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Dmitry Gutov
Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org writes: From: Dmitry Gutov dgu...@yandex.ru Cc: Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org, b...@gnu.org, l...@metapensiero.it, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Leo Liu sdl@gmail.com, emacs-de...@gnu.org Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:25:16 +0400 joa...@verona.se writes: Just a

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Dmitry Gutov
Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org writes: From: joa...@verona.se Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:15:07 +0100 Cc: b...@gnu.org, l...@metapensiero.it, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Leo Liu sdl@gmail.com, emacs-de...@gnu.org - Emacs trunk could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Eli Zaretskii writes: Not even that: the release candidate already reports its version as 24.3, so all is needed is to rename the tarball and upload to ftp.gnu.org. I stand corrected.

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Dmitry Gutov
On 08.03.2013 18:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: From: Dmitry Gutov dgu...@yandex.ru Cc: l...@metapensiero.it, joa...@verona.se, emacs-de...@gnu.org, b...@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, sdl@gmail.com Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:18:19 +0400 I like the idea of stripping big bundled packages

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-08 Thread Xue Fuqiao
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 11:29:23 -0500 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Xue Fuqiao xfq.f...@gmail.com writes: Sounds fine to me, because my Internet connection is very slow (especially to Savannah). It is often a pain for me to perform a `bzr pull',

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Glenn Morris r...@gnu.org writes: I assumed it was okay to fix bugs after the last pretest, is it so? No, it is not ok, and I don't know why you would think it is. I missed the distinction between pretest and release candidate. The reason for this policy is (obviously) to prevent

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Leo Liu
On 2013-03-08 14:40 +0800, Bastien wrote: I find it hard to draw a clear line between regressions and bugs, especially since Org 7.9.x versions are way behind the current Org master branch. I think org-mode is better in ELPA, a better distribution channel than the core for things like

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Leo Liu sdl@gmail.com writes: On 2013-03-08 14:40 +0800, Bastien wrote: I find it hard to draw a clear line between regressions and bugs, especially since Org 7.9.x versions are way behind the current Org master branch. I think org-mode is better in ELPA, a better distribution channel

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Leo Liu
On 2013-03-08 15:37 +0800, Bastien wrote: I strongly think otherwise: Emacs needs a good outline and editing tool. outline.el is not usable enough and I can see no other Emacs tool than Org-mode for exporting to HTML/LaTeX/ODT easily. I understand the temptation in terms of maintainance, but

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Xue Fuqiao
On 03/08/2013 02:40 PM, Bastien wrote: I missed the distinction between pretest and release candidate. What's the difference between pretest and release candidate? Doesn't the latter belong to the former? The rc1/rc1.1 was released on the pretest directory. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Xue Fuqiao xfq.f...@gmail.com writes: On 03/08/2013 02:40 PM, Bastien wrote: I missed the distinction between pretest and release candidate. What's the difference between pretest and release candidate? Doesn't the latter belong to the former? The rc1/rc1.1 was released on the pretest

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Xue Fuqiao
On 03/08/2013 03:37 PM, Bastien wrote: I think org-mode is better in ELPA, a better distribution channel than the core for things like org-mode. Bundling it in emacs doesn't help anybody. I strongly think otherwise: Emacs needs a good outline and editing tool. outline.el is not usable

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Glenn Morris
Assuming this is a recent regression, then if anyone from Org wants this fixed in Emacs 24.3, they should investigate this very quickly and suggest the _minimum_ change. See also the possibly related, unanswered http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2013-03/msg00028.html Lele Gaifax

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Glenn Morris r...@gnu.org writes: Assuming this is a recent regression, then if anyone from Org wants this fixed in Emacs 24.3, they should investigate this very quickly and suggest the _minimum_ change. The minimal fix is attached. The other attachment is the full patch I wanted to apply to

Re: [O] org-export raises stringp nil error

2013-03-07 Thread Glenn Morris
Bastien wrote: Glenn Morris r...@gnu.org writes: Assuming this is a recent regression, then if anyone from Org wants this fixed in Emacs 24.3, they should investigate this very quickly and suggest the _minimum_ change. The minimal fix is attached. The other attachment is the full patch I