[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-11 Thread Matt Lundin
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p for navigation through the outline? These are first class keys, and I would have good uses for these keys if most people don't actually use them. I use C-c C-n and

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-10 Thread Ulf Stegemann
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p for navigation through the outline? I use them all the time but I don't mind if they'd change. Another question: C-c C-v currently make the TODO sparse tree. dto.

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Leo
On 2010-05-09 12:43 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: what do you think about C-M-f, C-M-b, C-M-n, C-M-p as alternative bindings? These seem to make *a lot* of sense, because, as many here have pointed out, they are so much better repeatable (Keep C-M- down, press the character.) It is terrible

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Stephan Schmitt
On 05/09/2010 04:26 PM, Also sprach Leo: On 2010-05-09 12:43 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: what do you think about C-M-f, C-M-b, C-M-n, C-M-p as alternative bindings? These seem to make *a lot* of sense, because, as many here have pointed out, they are so much better repeatable (Keep C-M-

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Carsten Dominik
On May 9, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Leo wrote: On 2010-05-09 12:43 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: what do you think about C-M-f, C-M-b, C-M-n, C-M-p as alternative bindings? These seem to make *a lot* of sense, because, as many here have pointed out, they are so much better repeatable (Keep C-M- down,

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Nick Dokos
Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-05-09 12:43 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: what do you think about C-M-f, C-M-b, C-M-n, C-M-p as alternative bindings? These seem to make *a lot* of sense, because, as many here have pointed out, they are so much better repeatable (Keep C-M- down,

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Leo
On 2010-05-09 16:59 +0100, Nick Dokos wrote: I disagree: they are not parenthesis movement bindings - they are structure-navigation bindings. For example, C-M-f is forward-sexp. In lisp, an sexp has some relationship to parentheses, but it is incidental; in other programming modes, an sexp is

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Sebastian Rose
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Isn't this a legitimate case for overwriting these? The outline structure is a hierarchical structure which can be traversed in a similar way as the parenthesis structure in Lisp code Emacs major mode conventions allow overwriting

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Sebastian Rose
Leo sdl@gmail.com writes: Perhaps you haven't noticed. SEXP is a useful abstract. For example, it allows you to move across some_long_function_name in C and even in the message-mode I'm currently using, not just parenthesis. Situation like this will arise when editing org files too. It is

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Leo
On 2010-05-09 16:24 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: Isn't this a legitimate case for overwriting these? The outline structure is a hierarchical structure which can be traversed in a similar way as the parenthesis structure in Lisp code Emacs major mode conventions allow overwriting general

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Leo
On 2010-05-09 18:33 +0100, Sebastian Rose wrote: Perhaps you haven't noticed, that C-M-a and C-M-e do not anything usefull or similar to what you describe in Org-mode buffers. Navigating sections would be something similar and useful. Wouldn't it? I already stated it makes sense to

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Dan Davison
Leo sdl@gmail.com writes: On 2010-05-09 16:59 +0100, Nick Dokos wrote: I disagree: they are not parenthesis movement bindings - they are structure-navigation bindings. For example, C-M-f is forward-sexp. In lisp, an sexp has some relationship to parentheses, but it is incidental; in

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Dan Davison
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-05-09 12:43 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: what do you think about C-M-f, C-M-b, C-M-n, C-M-p as alternative bindings? These seem to make *a lot* of sense, because, as many here have pointed out, they are so

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Dan Davison
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-05-09 12:43 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: what do you think about C-M-f, C-M-b, C-M-n, C-M-p as alternative bindings? These seem to make *a lot* of sense, because, as many here have pointed out, they are so

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-09 Thread Carsten Dominik
On May 9, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Dan Davison wrote: Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-05-09 12:43 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: what do you think about C-M-f, C-M-b, C-M-n, C-M-p as alternative bindings? These seem to make *a lot* of sense, because,

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-08 Thread Vagn Johansen
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p I use them because I need to navigate the outline structure and they are the only keybindings I know of. I just realized (by looking in org.el) that org mode has

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-08 Thread Mikael Fornius
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p I am not using them. C-c C-v currently make the TODO sparse tree. I would like to put this tree on `C-c / t' which would be quite logical and free up another

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-08 Thread Memnon Anon
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p FWIW, I do not use them. Speedkeys are my favorites. [`C-c / t' to make a TODO sparse tree?] +1 Consistency is much more important for defaultkeybindings than already

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-08 Thread Benjamin Andresen
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi everyone, I am wondering: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p Not me, I'm using CM-n, CM-p, CM-u, and CM-d for outline navigation. Same here. I'm also

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-08 Thread Bernt Hansen
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi everyone, I am wondering: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p Hi Carsten, I currently use all of the four navigation keys above. C-c C-n and C-c C-p are the two I use the most. If there was some

[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands

2010-05-08 Thread Sebastian Hofer
On 08.05.10 11:14 Uhr, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi everyone, I am wondering: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p I don't use them. They are much too bothersom for me if I have to press them repeatedly. for navigation through the outline? These are first