daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
> So now the maintainer starts telling users that they are rare cases
> for being confused. How can any woman stand this guy!!! Impossible.
I'm closing this bug report. If there's anything more to be done here,
please report the bug to the Org maintainers.
--
* Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-14 15:46]:
> Jean Louis writes:
> > Do you mean this:
> >
> > ** DONE Objective
> >CLOSED: [2020-12-13 Sun 20:00]
> > *** TODO [#B] Step to do 1
> > *** TODO Step to do 2
> >
> > when org-enforce-todo-dependencies is true I can still say DONE for
> > Objective
Jean Louis writes:
> Do you mean this:
>
> ** DONE Objective
>CLOSED: [2020-12-13 Sun 20:00]
> *** TODO [#B] Step to do 1
> *** TODO Step to do 2
>
> when org-enforce-todo-dependencies is true I can still say DONE for
> Objective above. I have mentioned it today already. Maybe it works on
>
* Christopher Dimech [2020-12-13 20:49]:
> > Reference to manual:
> > (info "(org) TODO Items")
> >
> > And it is definitely not a "plain text". It is probably largest mode
> > for Emacs, a true and full application handling much more than plain
> > text. It has more than 129 Emacs Lisp files.
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 6:31 PM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: "Ihor Radchenko"
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> * Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-13 12:25]:
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 6:31 PM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: "Ihor Radchenko"
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> * Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-13 12:25]:
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 2:19 PM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: to...@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Ihor Radchenko"
>
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user optio
* Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-13 12:25]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > Org files I have always found useful for project and plan documents
> > preparation, in particular LaTeX and PDF export. As that way I get
> > better readability on screen and good printed document.
> >
> > None of such projects
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-12-13 08:52]:
> > In general Org mode is excellent for personal TODO lists. That is what
> > is offered in the menu, that is what is advertised. Problem is that
> > there is no warning for users that personal TODO lists are not meant
> > for anything but that. There is
Jean Louis writes:
> Org files I have always found useful for project and plan documents
> preparation, in particular LaTeX and PDF export. As that way I get
> better readability on screen and good printed document.
>
> None of such projects and plans need be marked with TODO as its nature
> is
* TRS-80 [2020-12-13 06:34]:
:PROPERTIES:
:CREATED: [2020-12-13 Sun 11:36]
:ID: 2e42666a-d04b-4f46-ba90-a923a5e2c50d
:END:
> On 2020-12-11 21:35, Jean Louis wrote:
> >
> > By the way I have completely switched all action management to my
> > database system with tabulated list
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 6:19 AM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: to...@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Ihor Radchenko"
>
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user optio
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-12-12 05:41]:
> > And I think it is possible for anybody regardless of programming skill
> > level to make one's own system of management of tasks within less than
> > a week that will get more aligned to personal individualized way of
> > handling tasks, then trying
On 2020-12-11 21:35, Jean Louis wrote:
By the way I have completely switched all action management to my
database system with tabulated list mode. No more using Org for action
management, only for document, not even short notes.
It sounds like you have well moved on to another solution by
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 3:35 AM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: "Ihor Radchenko"
> Cc: daniela-s...@gmx.it, to...@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
&
* Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-11 17:24]:
> > ... there is no active
> > hacking on org-agenda and adding new features.
>
> You are welcome to submit patches.
>
> I have experimental code to use pretty-symbols in agenda and align tags
> even when frame size changes [1]. However, last time I
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:54:01PM +0100, d
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:54:01PM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
> Two countrymen conspiring together.
Calm down. The Germans ain't after you (BTW: I may have a .de
address -- still I am not German. On the Internet, they say,
nobody knows you're a dog [1]).
Cheers
[1]
Two countrymen conspiring together.
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:43 PM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> On Fri, De
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:26 PM
> From: "Ihor Radchenko"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it, to...@tuxteam.de
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> > ... there i
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:47:27PM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
>
> Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no active
> hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. Or it may be that there
> are no new ideas and you are getting upset about it.
No need to
e
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> Am Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:47:27 +0100
> schrieb daniela-s...@gmx.it:
>
> > Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no
> > active hacki
> ... there is no active
> hacking on org-agenda and adding new features.
You are welcome to submit patches.
I have experimental code to use pretty-symbols in agenda and align tags
even when frame size changes [1]. However, last time I proposed this on
mailing list, there was no interest...
acs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> Am Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:47:27 +0100
> schrieb daniela-s...@gmx.it:
>
> > Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no
> > active hacking on org-agenda and adding new features.
Am Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:47:27 +0100
schrieb daniela-s...@gmx.it:
> Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no
> active hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. Or it may be
> that there are no new ideas and you are getting upset about it.
Hmm, may be he just meant,
e@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 05:32:39AM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > There are problems in Org-Agenda my friend [...]
>
> I don't know whet
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 05:32:39AM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
[...]
> There are problems in Org-Agenda my friend [...]
I don't know whether it's your intention (I'm assuming it's not),
but your tone comes across as pretty rude.
Cheers
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* TRS-80 [2020-12-11 08:23]:
> On 2020-11-29 17:08, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
> > Yes, there are problems with the documentation. I noticed
> > recently that some guy criticised the manual, and so many got
> > super defensive. You should give him a medal for telling you how
> > things are.
>
On 2020-11-29 17:08, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
Yes, there are problems with the documentation. I noticed recently
that
some guy criticised the manual, and so many got super defensive. You
should
give him a medal for telling you how things are.
I guess in my mind, complaining about the
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 4:59 AM
> From: "TRS-80"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Kyle Meyer" , "Tom Gillespie" ,
> "Org-Mode mailing list" , "Emacs-orgmode"
>
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-age
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 4:59 AM
> From: "TRS-80"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Kyle Meyer" , "Tom Gillespie" ,
> "Org-Mode mailing list" , "Emacs-orgmode"
>
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-age
> > From: "gyro funch"
> > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> > Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> > overwriting user options
> > If I'm not mistaken, all of the development is done by volunteers.
> >
> &g
* Tim Cross [2020-11-30 04:00]:
> The issue at this point wasn't about whether there is a problem with how
> org manages org-agenda-files or even the acknowledged weakness in the
> documentation which needs a patch. The issue here is about attitude and
> being respectful.
I think it would be
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 01:05:15AM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
[...]
> Please follow the commentary in savannah-hackers
> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers/2020-11/msg00085.html
>
> I agree fully with Falcon's description.
Just from a sideline: "Falcon's description"
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 3:50 AM
> From: "Tim Cross"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
>
> Christopher D
Christopher Dimech writes:
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:59 AM
>> From: "Tim Cross"
>> To: "Christopher Dimech"
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
>&
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:59 AM
> From: "Tim Cross"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
>
> Christopher D
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:09 AM
>> From: "Tim Cross"
>> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
>> overwriting user options
>>
>>
>
Christopher Dimech writes:
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:09 AM
>> From: "Tim Cross"
>> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
>> overwriting user options
>>
>>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:09 AM
> From: "Tim Cross"
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
>
> daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>
> >> Sent: Sund
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:09 AM
> From: "Tim Cross"
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
>
> daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>
> >> Sent: S
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 12:51 AM
> From: "Tim Cross"
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
>
> daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>
> >> Sent:
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:51 PM
>> From: "Gyro Funch"
>> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it, "Kyle Meyer"
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re[2]: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-a
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 6:22 PM
>> From: "Jean Louis"
>> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
>> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" , 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variab
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:51 PM
> From: "Gyro Funch"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it, "Kyle Meyer"
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re[2]: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
> &
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:02 PM
> From: "Kyle Meyer"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Tom Gillespie" , "Org-Mode mailing list"
>
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user option
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:20 PM
From: "Kyle Meyer"
To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
Cc: "gyro funch" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
overwriting user options
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:20 PM
> From: "Kyle Meyer"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "gyro funch" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
> da
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>> From: "gyro funch"
[...]
>> If I'm not mistaken, all of the development is done by volunteers.
>>
>> Perhaps you could help resolve your issue instead of asking other
>> people, who are likely already overworked, to shoulder the burden.
>
> Is there a mailing list
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>> From: "Tom Gillespie"
[...]
>> If you have that then your list will be retained. However Emacs will
>> probably continue to ask you to remove the missing file until some
>> file exists at that path. Not sure about the org agenda behavior for
>> missing files since
> Would this affect my own custom
What I did when I migrated was to manually move the existing
custom-set-variables and custom-set-faces from .emacs to the new
custom-file (in my case ~/.emacs.d/custom.el), that way the old
definitions will still be loaded. All new customizations will live in
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-11-29 23:46]:
> Yes, but initially people and going to take my dani.el file and if
> they happen to delete their file, the whole setup will break down.
If you wish to relate the settings to a file, you may use file local
variables so when you give them dani.el that
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:15 PM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Org-Mode mailing list"
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> * daniela-s...@gmx.i
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:07 PM
> From: "Tom Gillespie"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Org-Mode mailing list"
> Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting
> user options
>
> Here is a workaround. Em
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-11-29 21:54]:
> I have identified a problem. Let a user set the files to be used for
> Org Agenda in .emacs as follows, and consider the situation when the
> file writing.rcl.org does not exist.
>
> (setq org-agenda-files
>'("~/02histr/gadmin/writing.rcl.org"
>
Here is a workaround. Emacs klobbering settings in .emacs has caused
many issues for me in the past. The solution I finally came up with
was to ensure that custom variables are loaded before any of my
settings. Near the top of my .emacs (before any calls to setq) I have
the following:
custom
I have identified a problem. Let a user set the files to be used for
Org Agenda in .emacs as follows, and consider the situation when the
file writing.rcl.org does not exist.
(setq org-agenda-files
'("~/02histr/gadmin/writing.rcl.org"
"~/02histr/gadmin/meeting.rcl.org"
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 7:20 PM
> From: "gyro funch"
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
> On 11/29/2020 11:08 AM, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
> &g
On 11/29/2020 11:08 AM, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote:
>
>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 6:22 PM
>> From: "Jean Louis"
>> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
>> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" , 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts h
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 6:22 PM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" , 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
&
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 6:39 PM
> From: "Glenn Morris"
> To: "Eli Zaretskii"
> Cc: "Jean Louis" , 44...@debbugs.gnu.org,
> daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
&g
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 6:22 PM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" , 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
&
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> In rare cases that users become confused, we gently tell them to
> report to the Org developers.
I think it's better all round to just reassign the bug to the "org-mode"
package.
> There is no manager here that forwards bugs.
And yet, all the messages in this thread
> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:29:18 +0300
> From: Jean Louis
> Cc: daniela-s...@gmx.it, 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> * Eli Zaretskii [2020-11-29 18:08]:
> > Shouldn't this be reported to the Org developers?
>
> We have discussed that Org is part of Emacs and users shall be at all
> time welcome to
rs who basically use Gnu
Tools to do
something else.
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 5:29 PM
> From: "Jean Louis"
> To: "Eli Zaretskii"
> Cc: daniela-s...@gmx.it, 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files va
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 4:37 PM
> From: "Basil L. Contovounesios"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" , 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes:
>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 4:07 PM
>> From: "Eli Zaretskii"
>> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
>> Cc: 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Subject: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
>> overwriting
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 4:07 PM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii"
> To: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Cc: 44...@debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable,
> overwriting user options
>
> > From: daniela-s...@gmx.i
> From: daniela-s...@gmx.it
> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 22:34:07 +0100
>
> I have identified a problem. Let a user set the files to be used for
> Org Agenda in .emacs as follows, and consider the situation when the
> file writing.rcl.org does not exist.
>
> (setq org-agenda-files
>
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