Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-07 Thread Carsten Dominik
H no more entries. :-( Anyway, here is my entry, just to prove that N is 8 (at least for now), and also to show that perl can function as a write-only language. - Carsten #!/usr/bin/perl -p # taskpaper-to-org converter including #+TAGS setup in 239 bytes /^(\t*)-(.*?)((@\w+ *)*)$/;

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Apr 3, 2008, at 5:14 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: I'm not convinced of it's worth either. But having more org files out in the wild would be nice :-) It's a shame Taskpaper doesn't just use a subset of org-mode's syntax really. R. Well, indeed not exactly the same, but very close. A way

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Apr 3, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Manish wrote: Not worth it, IMHO. Thank $deity, Carsten and others that contribute to org-mode do not /have to/ do it. I wish they would spend their time having fun instead of worrying about increasing market share. I am certainly doing exactly that. - Carsten

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Bastien
Rick Moynihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, you *might* be able to convince your mum to use Taskpaper but there's no way she'd ever use Emacs and Org-mode. I'd prefer my mum not to use or send me todo-lists! Even with a Org syntax. I'd been 20 years now that I try to convince her

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Eddward DeVilla wrote: I guess the best way to address this problem might be to document up front that org-mode uses a simple, readable, text only format and that all of the features can be used independently of each other but that they do interact well together. (It's been a while since I've

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Manish
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: Eddward DeVilla wrote: I guess the best way to address this problem might be to document up front that org-mode uses a simple, readable, text only format and that all of the features can be used independently of each other

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Manish wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: Eddward DeVilla wrote: I guess the best way to address this problem might be to document up front that org-mode uses a simple, readable, text only format and that all of the features can be used independently

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Tim O'Callaghan
To be honest when i first read it i thought it was a good idea. I saw it as an extension of your splitting the big org file into the smaller include files in the git repo. What people miss when they are new to Org-mode is this: Don't try to set up the final task managing system from the

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Joel J. Adamson
Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: Emacs might be Org's greatest ally, but it's also simultaneously Org's biggest problem. My point here, isn't to bash Emacs, it is what it is, and it's damn good... But with apologies to RMS, it

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Bastien
Rick Moynihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a shame Taskpaper doesn't just use a subset of org-mode's syntax really. What would it be useful for? Using both TaskPaper and org-mode? I think people using TaskPaper are not likely to use org-mode and vice versa. I tend to agree some of the

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Bastien wrote: Rick Moynihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a shame Taskpaper doesn't just use a subset of org-mode's syntax really. What would it be useful for? Using both TaskPaper and org-mode? I think people using TaskPaper are not likely to use org-mode and vice versa. No. Like

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Joel J. Adamson wrote: Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: Emacs might be Org's greatest ally, but it's also simultaneously Org's biggest problem. My point here, isn't to bash Emacs, it is what it is, and it's damn good... But

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
Rick Moynihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3. Offer some kind of Easy org installation. - Effectively a distro of Emacs tailored to Org-mode. - Ship with an installer. - Give it a catchier product name. IMO making sure that Emacs-W32 and Aquamacs always ship a current version of

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode and taskpaper

2008-04-01 Thread Russell Adams
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:26:49AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: Dear all, the recent discussion about Taskpaper in the thread started by Clint Laskowski has made me realize how much we have lost out way with Org-mode. Org-mode was once a compact and easy tool just like taskpaper. In

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode and taskpaper

2008-04-01 Thread Karsten Heymann
Egli Christian (KIRO 433) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the recent discussion about Taskpaper in the thread started by Clint Laskowski has made me realize how much we have lost out way with Org-mode. Org-mode was once a compact and easy tool just like taskpaper. In fact, looking at the features

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode and taskpaper

2008-04-01 Thread Clint Laskowski
My thoughtful suggestion has become the brunt of an April Fool's Joke? I have half a mind to report you all to the Productivity Police! Fine! I'm going back to paper and pencil for to-do lists, and mail, too! We'll see how you like that! :-) On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL

RE: [Orgmode] Org-mode and taskpaper

2008-04-01 Thread Egli Christian (KIRO 433)
the recent discussion about Taskpaper in the thread started by Clint Laskowski has made me realize how much we have lost out way with Org-mode. Org-mode was once a compact and easy tool just like taskpaper. In fact, looking at the features of taskpaper, one might think that they had an

tutorial: [was: Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode and taskpaper]

2008-04-01 Thread Giovanni Ridolfi
--- Bastien Guerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: what would be Emacs without its tutorial? A closed door. So I believe this would be a *huge* benefit for Org to have its own tutorial. Is it an april fool? [°]=,= Let's assume it isn't. I disagree since I belive the manual is already

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Russell Adams
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:28:37PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: Dear all, I hope that you will all forgive me my little joke. It worked so well because there is a certain amount of truth in the matter, of course, and I would like to address this in a more serious manner. You got me.

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode and taskpaper

2008-04-01 Thread Eddward DeVilla
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Clint Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My thoughtful suggestion has become the brunt of an April Fool's Joke? I have half a mind to report you all to the Productivity Police! Fine! I'm going back to paper and pencil for to-do lists, and mail, too! We'll see

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Eddward DeVilla
To be honest, if I were looking for an outliner today as I was when I found org-mode, I might have been scared off. Org-mode has gotten very big. But as you said, the easy things are easy. There are a great many feature in org-mode that I have not used nor have I had time to learn to use. They

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Apr 1, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Eddward DeVilla wrote: To be honest, if I were looking for an outliner today as I was when I found org-mode, I might have been scared off. Org-mode has gotten very big. Sometimes I am wondering: what do you mean when it has gotten big? How do you measure it?