Re: Reply-All noise

2020-11-01 Thread Anthony Carrico
On 10/9/20 3:24 PM, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: Do you receive double mails? Doesn't it bother you? Normally I would agree with you, but there is a very simple explanation for this particular list: This mailing list is very high traffic and people can't pay attention all the time. I automatica

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 30 Oct 2020 at 12:30, Russell Adams wrote: > Welcome to the next stage of Eternal September. ;-) $ sdate Fri 9922 Sep 11:58:07 GMT 1993 $ -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4-61-ga88806.dirty

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-30 Thread Russell Adams
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 10:10:41PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > For mailing lists which allow posting by non-subscribers (this is one), Org-mode is a subscriber only mailing list. It does not allow non-members to post for spam prevention. If you did not have to subscribe to the mailing list w

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-11 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Tim Cross writes: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> On Sunday, 11 Oct 2020 at 16:35, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: >>> From my point of view mailinglists and web-forums are a step back in >>> usability and efficiency. >> >> On this, we can definitely agree! Newsgroups are still the best way to >> have the

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-11 Thread Tim Cross
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Sunday, 11 Oct 2020 at 16:35, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: >> From my point of view mailinglists and web-forums are a step back in >> usability and efficiency. > > On this, we can definitely agree! Newsgroups are still the best way to > have these types of conversations.

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-11 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 11 Oct 2020 at 16:35, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > From my point of view mailinglists and web-forums are a step back in > usability and efficiency. On this, we can definitely agree! Newsgroups are still the best way to have these types of conversations. > But there is just one exception

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-11 Thread c.buhtz
On 2020-10-11 14:58 Eric S Fraga wrote: > the org mode mailing list is open, I never understood the benefit of an "open" mailinglist. But I am not the center of the universe. ;) > I am not trying to be snarky or rude Your are not. Everything is fine. > For other lists, the situation could > be

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-11 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Saturday, 10 Oct 2020 at 10:53, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > IMO the problem is the list user that "Answers to all". But this is *not* the problem as the org mode mailing list is open, i.e. anybody can post whether they subscribe or not. Hence, replying to all is actually the safest option. The

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread c.buhtz
On 2020-10-10 20:57 Maxim Nikulin wrote: > openssl s_client --starttls sieve -connect posteo.de:sieve > > "IMPLEMENTATION" "Dovecot Pigeonhole" Great! I knew and intensiv used "sieve" on my posteo.de Server. But sieve-Support was unofficial and they simply deactivated it without reason or any n

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread Jens Lechtenboerger
On 2020-10-09, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 10:10:41PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 09:24:34PM +0200, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: >> > Hi, > > [...] > >> There is no clear-cut answer to that [...] > > You might also want to experiment with setting the

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread Maxim Nikulin
10.10.2020 15:53, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: On 2020-10-10 15:03 Maxim Nikulin wrote: 1. Use "duplicate" sieve extension. [..] 2. Just add filter [..] This are workarounds but not solutions. Certainly. IMO the problem is the list user that "Answers to all". Why should I modify my system b

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread c.buhtz
On 2020-10-10 11:10 wrote: > I made myself quite a bit of work to explain to you what you can do. > Even with a link to mailman docs on how you can set your subscription > settings. You did not. You wrote > experiment with setting the Mail-Followup-To: header [1] and pointed to https://cr.yp.to

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread tomas
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 10:57:26AM +0200, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > There is a "Sender:" header entry I can filter on. > > But I do not setup anything because I don't case the problem. I don't unerstand this sentence. > Btw: It is nice that all of you using Gnus and (maybe) a local > mailserver

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread tomas
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 10:53:08AM +0200, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > On 2020-10-10 15:03 Maxim Nikulin wrote: > > 1. Use "duplicate" sieve extension. > > [..] > > > > 2. Just add filter > > [..] > > This are workarounds but not solutions. > > IMO the problem is the list user that "Answers to al

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread c.buhtz
There is a "Sender:" header entry I can filter on. But I do not setup anything because I don't case the problem. Btw: It is nice that all of you using Gnus and (maybe) a local mailserver with powerfull filtering. I don't. It is kind of a religious problem. :D Isn't there a setting on the mailin

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread c.buhtz
On 2020-10-10 15:03 Maxim Nikulin wrote: > 1. Use "duplicate" sieve extension. > [..] > > 2. Just add filter > [..] This are workarounds but not solutions. IMO the problem is the list user that "Answers to all". Why should I modify my system because another one make errors?

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-10 Thread Maxim Nikulin
10.10.2020 02:24, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: So tell me please how do you handle this "problem"? Or do I setup something wrong with my list account? From my point of view, the problem is that most of you press "Reply All" when answering to a mailinglist posting. But that is IMO wrong because you

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-09 Thread Tory S. Anderson
I do use reply-to-all (gnus-style), but I don't notice doubles. It might be because I have my client set up to do deduping, though. writes: > Hi, > > I had this discussion in several mailinglists but gave up. > > But I am suprised to see this phenomenon in a emacs related (means: > "super nerdy

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 10:10:41PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 09:24:34PM +0200, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > > Hi, [...] > There is no clear-cut answer to that [...] You might also want to experiment with setting the Mail-Followup-To: header [1] in your mails to the l

Re: Reply-All noise

2020-10-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 09:24:34PM +0200, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Hi, > > I had this discussion in several mailinglists but gave up. > > But I am suprised to see this phenomenon in a emacs related (means: > "super nerdy") mailinglist, too. > > So tell me please how do you handle this "problem

Reply-All noise

2020-10-09 Thread c.buhtz
Hi, I had this discussion in several mailinglists but gave up. But I am suprised to see this phenomenon in a emacs related (means: "super nerdy") mailinglist, too. So tell me please how do you handle this "problem"? Or do I setup something wrong with my list account? From my point of view, the