Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
I can make sure RTAI works with LinuxCNC myself, no need for Seb's stuff or anyone's VMs for that matter. Adding back in RTAI support though to the LinuxCNC Debian configure script would be helpful. I started on it but it's not finished. https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2052 In case

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread matt
On 2022-11-14 15:54, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: In order to support testing LinuxCNC on RTAI the buildbot uses custom VMs which i created a long time ago and maintain poorly. It all runs on hardware in my house, on my local network, so I am reluctant to open it up to a more collaborative mode o

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Bari
https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net/msg23329.html full link in case it gets truncated and you get a 404 On 11/14/22 18:55, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: I don't mind building LinuxCNC RTAI packages but the problem is actually a license problem. LinuxCNC keeps

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
I don't mind building LinuxCNC RTAI packages but the problem is actually a license problem. LinuxCNC keeps complaining after the ./configure about how it's a non-distributable build, but that flag has to be set due to the readline GPL-v2/LGPL starting with Debian Bullseye, otherwise the configur

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Rod Webster
I'll just wait until you guys decide on a way forward and iff the offer we have is required. Perhaps the Github actions could be extended to build the 2.9 branch? If that were possible, maybe the VM here does the RTAI build? I'm not sure git will host the resulting debs but it might be worth ment

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Bari
On 11/14/22 15:54, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: The difficulty with building and testing LinuxCNC in docker containers or in off-the-shelf VMs (as in Github Actions) is that our 'RTAI' configuration needs a special kernel, and needs to load and unload kernel modules to run & test LinuxCNC. (

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/14/22 13:37, Jérémie Tarot wrote: Could someone explain me how relocating the buildbot on someone's machine can be better for the project than migrating it to GitHub Actions, build farm and package hoster ? Don't get me wrong John and Rod, I very much appreciate your proposal and investmen

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread John Thornton
This sounds like a good long term solution if it's free. In the mean time I'm trying to at least get some debs uploaded to http://linuxcnc.org/dists/ as soon as I get my ssh key sorted out. JT On 11/14/2022 2:37 PM, Jérémie Tarot wrote: Le dim. 13 nov. 2022 à 18:39, Jérémie Tarot a écrit :

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Rod Webster
Ooops Python 3.9 Rod Webster *1300 896 832* +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifications Network www.vehiclemods.net.au On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 at 06:53, Rod Webster wrote: > I think some of those features on github might incurr a cost. I'm sure we > have more than 500 mb of code. > You could also consid

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Rod Webster
I think some of those features on github might incurr a cost. I'm sure we have more than 500 mb of code. You could also consider this free openbuild servce https://build.opensuse.org/ The etherlab guys use it to build debs as per the sticky I put in our ethercat forum. They have a connector from gi

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 20:42, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > Could someone explain me how relocating the buildbot on someone's > machine can be better for the project than migrating it to GitHub > Actions, build farm and package hoster ? What would the user install instructions look like in that scenari

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le dim. 13 nov. 2022 à 18:39, Jérémie Tarot a écrit : > > Hello Andy, > Well, at least you're not alone to feel ignored sometimes... Could someone explain me how relocating the buildbot on someone's machine can be better for the project than migrating it to GitHub Actions, build farm and package

Re: [Emc-developers] Python3 is available also for buster Aw: Re: 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 14:26, Steffen Möller wrote: > > If all the dependencies of the RTAI version are in Debian then I see no > reason why only the RTAI version should be built. The main dependency of the RTAI version is the RTAI kernel. And that isn't in Debian. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bi

Re: [Emc-developers] Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 14:53, Steffen Möller wrote: > I am tempted to suggest that the LiveCD may run with bookworm. My line of > thought is that when we release, bookworm will already be "frozen", such that > the parts of Debian we are using are unlikely to see much of a change until > the re

[Emc-developers] linuxcnc.org/dists

2022-11-14 Thread John Thornton
If someone can supply me with the credentials for http://linuxcnc.org/dists/ I can build debs and upload them via sftp for the ones that the current buildbot does not create. JT ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net h

Re: [Emc-developers] Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-14 Thread Steffen Möller
> Gesendet: Montag, 14. November 2022 um 10:28 Uhr > Von: "andy pugh" > An: "EMC developers" > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Plans for the USB sticks anyone? > > On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 08:52, Steffen Möller wrote: > > > b) the Live USB stick with LinuxCNC (and other useful or eye candy bits)

[Emc-developers] Python3 is available also for buster Aw: Re: 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Steffen Möller
If all the dependencies of the RTAI version are in Debian then I see no reason why only the RTAI version should be built. Python3 is in all versions of Debian https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/python3-defaults. Best, Steffen > Gesendet: Montag, 14. November 2022 um 13:44 Uhr > Von: "Rod Webster"

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Rod Webster
OK, I wonder if we could organise a Google meet to discuss this before I go back to Damien so I understand requirements. Also it would be good if somebody could find out memory requirements for a buildbot. I am GMT +10 so off to bed now. Rod Webster *1300 896 832* +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifica

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 10:18, Rod Webster wrote: > > Do we really need a Bullseye release? I think so. I have the impression that the 2.9 release is already considered "late" and our LiveCD is currently based on Buster (which is out of date, though still supported as oldstable, I think?) Bookw

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Rod Webster
Do we really need a Bullseye release? If the Debian release freeze starts In January and we've always had to build from source on Bullseye, aren't we going backwards and doubling the maintenance? Can it be done in a chroot environment? I thought that's what buildbots did. I can ask nicely, but do

Re: [Emc-developers] Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 08:52, Steffen Möller wrote: > b) the Live USB stick with LinuxCNC (and other useful or eye candy bits) on it > > Is there any "production team" for b) already? I would like to discuss what > is missing and/or should be updated. It uses live-build and is controlled by: ht

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 08:34, Steffen Möller wrote: > The primary challenge for the build bots may be to place the resulting .debs > in a location from where they can then be installed with apt. I have no idea > how the current system does it. Semi-manually. There are some scripts: https://git

[Emc-developers] Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-14 Thread Steffen Möller
Dear all, I keep thinking that we are releasing two different things together a) LinuxCNC b) the Live USB stick with LinuxCNC (and other useful or eye candy bits) on it Is there any "production team" for b) already? I would like to discuss what is missing and/or should be updated. Best, Steffen

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-14 Thread Steffen Möller
I have not yet fully understood what is happening but I like all the vibes you are sending. > Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. November 2022 um 22:50 Uhr > Von: "John Thornton" > > I've been putzing around with buildbot and just now have it showing > changes in a scratch github repo. Now to make it build