Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/29/2016 01:41 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >> Worse. My ppmc driver exports pins based on what devices it >> detects on the parallel port bus. (I think the Mesa drivers >> do something similar.) > How do you write configuration for these changing ports today? > ... >

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 October 2016 at 11:23, EBo wrote: > Is there already a how-to on doing all this? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/tutorial.html -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — Geo

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-29 Thread EBo
On Oct 29 2016 4:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 October 2016 at 18:36, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: >> Are there a method to probe the hardware without a *.hal file? > > Yes, the software can send individual HAL commands. Is there already a how-to on doing all this? ---

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-29 Thread andy pugh
On 28 October 2016 at 18:36, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Are there a method to probe the hardware without a *.hal file? Yes, the software can send individual HAL commands. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses,

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-29 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
For hostmot2 driver: halcmd loadrt hostmot2 halcmd loadrt hm2_eth board_ip="192.168.1.10" list pin list sig list param load and report the pin. I think with the correct parameters it will report all needed parameters to select or possible generate correct symbol for gschem back annotation or

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-28 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Worse. My ppmc driver exports pins based on what devices it > detects on the parallel port bus. (I think the Mesa drivers > do something similar.) > >>> How do you write configuration for these changing ports today? > >>> ... > >>> > >> By hand, based on sample configs. ... > >>

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/28/2016 12:36 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >> Jon Elson wrote: Worse. My ppmc driver exports pins based on what devices it detects on the parallel port bus. (I think the Mesa drivers do something similar.) >>> How do you write configuration for these changing ports today?

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols <-- Back annotation

2016-10-28 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Jon Elson wrote: > >> Worse. My ppmc driver exports pins based on what devices it > >> detects on the parallel port bus. (I think the Mesa drivers > >> do something similar.) > > How do you write configuration for these changing ports today? > > ... > > > By hand, based on sample configs.

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/27/2016 11:35 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: Jon Elson wrote: >> Worse. My ppmc driver exports pins based on what devices it >> detects on the parallel port bus. (I think the Mesa drivers >> do something similar.) > How do you write configuration for these changing ports today? > > By ha

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-28 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:15:46 +0100 andy pugh wrote: > On 28 October 2016 at 05:35, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > > How do you write configuration for these changing ports today? > > Typically for a Mesa setup with a bunch of smart-serial devices (and > bear in mind that smart-serial devices choos

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 October 2016 at 05:35, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > How do you write configuration for these changing ports today? Typically for a Mesa setup with a bunch of smart-serial devices (and bear in mind that smart-serial devices choose their _own_ pin names) you hook up the parts, launch the driver

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-27 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On 10/27/2016 12:38 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > >>> That component calculates its own "personality" parameter from a config > >>> string. > >> Good point, Andy - the pins available can depend on comp load-time > >> arguments. > > Yes pins available can depend on comp load-time but can the conf

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-27 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Yes I know about the python tools, scheme is however used for other gschem backends. If python works I can't see any reason to change. > Nicklas, there are python tools that communicate with Gschem. > > I didnt want to look into Scheme, also did not try these. > just fyi > > http://robertobuche

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-27 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Nicklas, there are python tools that communicate with Gschem. I didnt want to look into Scheme, also did not try these. just fyi http://robertobucher.dti.supsi.ch/files/2014/06/DescPython.pdf some gEda shape creation in python https://xgoat.com/wp/tag/python/ hth tomp tjtr33

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/27/2016 12:38 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >>> That component calculates its own "personality" parameter from a config >>> string. >> Good point, Andy - the pins available can depend on comp load-time >> arguments. > Yes pins available can depend on comp load-time but can the configuration? >

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> gschem symbols

2016-10-27 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> > That component calculates its own "personality" parameter from a config > > string. > > Good point, Andy - the pins available can depend on comp load-time > arguments. Yes pins available can depend on comp load-time but can the configuration? Ordinary text file configuration do not depend

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-27 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 10/27/2016 12:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 27 October 2016 at 04:08, Chris Radek wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:00:16AM +0100, andy pugh wrote: >>> >>> And I think that there was at least one more that I haven't found. >> >> was it http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Halitosis > > No

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-27 Thread Jim Craig
On 10/26/2016 7:42 PM, Chris Morley wrote: > Hello Jim. > > > Linuxcnc has two gui menu based configuration programs, > > stepconf and pncconf. Do they not fit what you are trying to accomplish? > > > IMHO helping maintain and expand these programs is better for the community, > then dividing time

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-27 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/27/2016 02:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 27 October 2016 at 01:59, Jeff Epler wrote: >> I'm totally open to 'comp' gaining a new output format that describes the >> component. that beats parsing manpage markup by a factor of about a billion. >> but somebody needs to design that format and im

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 October 2016 at 01:59, Jeff Epler wrote: > I'm totally open to 'comp' gaining a new output format that describes the > component. that beats parsing manpage markup by a factor of about a billion. > but somebody needs to design that format and implement it in comp. It's also likely to be ra

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 October 2016 at 05:28, Jon Elson wrote: > I now use Glade for building GUIs and attach that to c > programs to do the dirty work. > Vastly more understandable and maintainable I am not so sure about that. I have recently had absolutely no replies to queries on GTK IRC channels. And, also, a

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 October 2016 at 04:08, Chris Radek wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:00:16AM +0100, andy pugh wrote: >> >> And I think that there was at least one more that I haven't found. > > was it http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Halitosis No, I had forgotten that one. There is another that u

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list --> GUI based HAL configurator

2016-10-26 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> I think that many users would greatly benefit from a GUI based HAL > configurator. I downloaded the latest source code from the git > repository. I have been looking at all of the HAL source code that I can > find. ... I have seen and have on my compute gschem symbols for graphical configurat

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/26/2016 09:46 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 10/26/2016 06:09 PM, Jim Craig wrote: >> On 10/26/2016 6:00 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >>> The halshow program is built from tcl/bin/halshow.tcl by the main >>> src/Makefile. >> I did not look there. So, is TCL still a relevant language? I

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:00:16AM +0100, andy pugh wrote: > > And I think that there was at least one more that I haven't found. was it http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Halitosis -- The Command Line: Reinvented

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/26/2016 06:09 PM, Jim Craig wrote: > On 10/26/2016 6:00 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >> The halshow program is built from tcl/bin/halshow.tcl by the main >> src/Makefile. > > I did not look there. So, is TCL still a relevant language? I have not > used it at all. I was figuring on C or pyth

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/26/2016 07:12 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016, at 08:59 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: >> I'm totally open to 'comp' gaining a new output format that describes the >> component. that beats parsing manpage markup by a factor of about a billion. >> but somebody needs to design that

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016, at 08:59 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: > I'm totally open to 'comp' gaining a new output format that describes the > component. that beats parsing manpage markup by a factor of about a billion. > but somebody needs to design that format and implement it in comp. Definitely beats p

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Jeff Epler
I'm totally open to 'comp' gaining a new output format that describes the component. that beats parsing manpage markup by a factor of about a billion. but somebody needs to design that format and implement it in comp. Jeff -

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Chris Morley
PM To: Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-developers] New to developers list Hello All, I have been on the emc-users list for some time now. I have a feature that I would like to attempt to add to the LinuxCNC project so I joined this list as I figured it was a better place to ask quest

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Jim Craig
On 10/26/2016 6:06 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 27 October 2016 at 00:00, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > >> The idea has been proposed in the past, and some folks started >> experimenting with different approaches, but as far as i know, nothing >> usable ever came of it. > I think that it would be nece

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Jim Craig
On 10/26/2016 6:00 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 26 October 2016 at 21:59, Jim Craig wrote: >> I also saw that someone had started a graphical HAL configurator and it >> was last modified some 11 years ago. > There have been a few attempts. Do you mean Crapahalic? > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wi

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Jim Craig
On 10/26/2016 6:00 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 10/26/2016 02:59 PM, Jim Craig wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I have been on the emc-users list for some time now. I have a feature >> that I would like to attempt to add to the LinuxCNC project so I joined >> this list as I figured it was a better

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread andy pugh
On 27 October 2016 at 00:00, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > The idea has been proposed in the past, and some folks started > experimenting with different approaches, but as far as i know, nothing > usable ever came of it. I think that it would be necessary for any such utility to be able to parse

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread andy pugh
On 26 October 2016 at 21:59, Jim Craig wrote: > I also saw that someone had started a graphical HAL configurator and it > was last modified some 11 years ago. There have been a few attempts. Do you mean Crapahalic? http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?HAL There was also an attempt to use Eag

Re: [Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/26/2016 02:59 PM, Jim Craig wrote: > Hello All, > > I have been on the emc-users list for some time now. I have a feature > that I would like to attempt to add to the LinuxCNC project so I joined > this list as I figured it was a better place to ask questions about > development. Hello, welc

[Emc-developers] New to developers list

2016-10-26 Thread Jim Craig
Hello All, I have been on the emc-users list for some time now. I have a feature that I would like to attempt to add to the LinuxCNC project so I joined this list as I figured it was a better place to ask questions about development. I think that many users would greatly benefit from a GUI bas