EN 61000-4-5 Neutral Testing

1999-03-03 Thread watchison
When testing a 5 wire 208 VAC 3 Phase connection for surge how is neutral tested? Wes Atchison Senior EMC Engineer KTL Dallas, Inc. 802 N. Kealy Lewisville, Texas 75057-3136 Phone: 972-436-9600 Fax: 972-436-2667 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your

Safety for Vehicular ITE Equipment

1999-03-03 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear Stewart, I have been involved in safety Approvals (UL, TUV, CE) for vehicular type ITE equipment. This type of equipment is covered under the IEC 950, UL1950, EN 60 950, AS/NZS 3260, etc. standards. Pollution Degree 1 should be considered when evaluating insulation requirements. Also,

RE: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
The OJ notice for EN55024 can be found at the following site. http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/dat/1999/c_057/c_05719990227en00020018.pdf -- From: Geoff Lister [SMTP:geoff.lis...@motionmedia.co.

Re: Standards history

1999-03-03 Thread Robert Johnson
You're remembering Conrad Maheux, a major player in the integration of the North American standards and the transition to IEC. For a long time he ran Canadian Business Equipment Manufacturer's Association, later to become ITAC. Always had his bucket of commas handy. Fondly remember the dinners at A

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Mark Hone
>Nothing about the content is puzzling... the basic required content >is pretty much defined. I am more curious as to the format, >presentation, "added extras", handling of measurement uncertainty, etc. >that is used by industry wide TCF creators. >Bob Heller >A competent body issues a technical c

RE: CE marking - self-certification

1999-03-03 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
In the EU there is a legal loophole in that a non-resident may sign the DoC. The DG has stated that is acceptable. So, in this case, who has the legal liability of fines and jail? -- From: Kevin Richardson [SMTP:k...@compuserve.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 8

Re: New EMC requirements

1999-03-03 Thread Lfresearch
Tony, Has Consumer reports begun to EMC test products? Especially since it's only recently that susceptible electronics have found their way into designs Derek. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org wi

Re: New EMC requirements

1999-03-03 Thread Tony J. O'Hara
Hi Derek Sorry, but I feel compelled to provide another point of view-about US products failing! I came to the US more than 30 years ago and quickly subscribed to Consumer Reports, which I always use as a guide to buy just about any appliance. Perhaps, as a consequence, I have had a totally differe

UL 1950 Requirements for Operational Insulation

1999-03-03 Thread Allen Tudor
Clause 5.4.4 of UL1950, Third Edition specifies that in lieu of creepage and clearance distance requirements for operational insulation, the electric strength test for operational insulation (Table 18) can be used. Does anyone know how to calculate minimum distances between traces on a printed

Fw: Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread ed . price
Posted for Dan Sicard: From: Daniel Sicard Subject: Re: CE mark self certification Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:45:14 -0500 To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Hi, group, > > I have heard an interpretation which was saying that only a CB (competent > body) was allowed to

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Geoff Lister
Bob, We test our product at a local accredited test house for CE and FCC pt 15. Initially we had certificates for passes against the various EN specs and a full FCC report with photographs. Because we make telecommunications products, most countries require a detailed telecomms submission, wi

(Fwd) EMC and New Zealand

1999-03-03 Thread Brian Harlowe
Hi Everybody Amidst all the recent flurry of activity regarding the C Tick Mark I thought I saw some mention of compliances for New Zealand. If anyone has a record of this could they forward it to me Many Thanks Brian Harlowe * opinions expressed here are personal and in

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-03 Thread Lacey,Scott
<$0.02> I just thought I'd add my two cents worth. It's sometimes all too easy to forget WHY we perform these tests. While we are trying to comply with written requirements in order to "pass", we are also trying to ensure product performance in the real world, which can be a very hostile place fro

Re: New EMC requirements

1999-03-03 Thread Lfresearch
In a message dated 3/3/99 7:55:28 AM Central Standard Time, george.da...@unisys.com writes: << Derek: If you do not have confidence in the product you are buying then select another vendor. I understand your concern about products but I also understand your perspective as a test laboratory own

Compliance Docs on Web Summary

1999-03-03 Thread Scott Douglas
Hello Everyone, Thank you all for responding to my query on posting compliance information on web sites. Your comments were quite interesting to read. The information collected is quite varied but there are several general themes throughout. Here is a brief summary: It is almost an even split bet

RE: New EMC requirements

1999-03-03 Thread George, David L
Derek: If you do not have confidence in the product you are buying then select another vendor. I understand your concern about products but I also understand your perspective as a test laboratory owner. Please look at the perspective of the consumer who has to pay for the extra assurance and the

C Tick

1999-03-03 Thread Tony Reynolds
All, Jim Hulbert (Pitney Bowes Inc) is correct regarding his comments on ACA accepting EMC reports from a laboratory or organisation which is accredited by either A2LA or NVLAP as this is recognised by NATA (National Association of Testing Authorities Australia).

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread reheller
Derek, thanks for the TCF information. This brings up another question I have concerning EMC test reports in general. When there was basically only the Europe and the U.S. to be specifically tested for, we produced two test reports tailored to these areas (graphs and limit lines, test setups, l

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread reheller
Your forgiven. "Frank West" on 03/02/99 09:26:35 PM Please respond to "Frank West" To: emc-p...@ieee.org cc:(bcc: Robert E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US) Subject: Re: CE mark self certification Just semantic

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Frank West
Just semantics here, and not contributing any useful information whatsoever, but... a notified body (NB) issues a technical file (for machinery, LVD directives). A competent body issues a technical construction file (for EMC directive). And of course an agency which is both (NCB, or notified com

RE: C Tick..

1999-03-03 Thread Kevin Richardson
The comments from Jim Hulbert are correct. Any lab accredited by either A2LA or NVLAP is considered "certified" by NATA and as such considered an accredited lab by the ACA. Best regards, Kevin Richardson Stanimore Pty Limited "Specialists in Technology R

RE: C-Tick importer variation

1999-03-03 Thread Kevin Richardson
Koh, To expand on Dick Shultz's comments, the importer is ultimately responsible for ensuring compliance with EMC in Australia (Compliance Folder, DoC etc). You can work in both ways you outlined in your original questions: a) leave the original N555 label on providing you take certain measure

CE marking - self-certification

1999-03-03 Thread Kevin Richardson
In reply to Pete Perkins, The issue Pete raises regarding the legal liability for any individual signing a Declaration of Conformity for Europe is often not considered with the respect it sometimes deserves. A similar situation applies in Australia relating to the use of the C-tick and A-tick mar

RE: Standards history

1999-03-03 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Bob, Your memory goes a long way. Additionally, as I remember it, in addition to UL flammability requirements, the mechanical stability section was also adopted almost word for word from UL 478 into IEC 435. The whole was further polished for clarity of thought and good body English by the tire

RE: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Derek, Nothing puzzles me about the TCF except your greeting! (And I am smiling as I type this;-- no offense was taken since no offense was meant by you.) Tania Grant, a "chappette" from Lucent Technologies, Octel Messaging Division tg...@lucent.com -- From: lfresea...@

FW: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Rate, Simon
> -Original Message- > From: Rate, Simon > Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 6:19 PM > To: 'Biggs, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA)'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: > RE: CE mark self certification > > You ask a pretty open question there Daniel, and the answer really > depends upon your product,