Re: HAR Cordage - Who needs it?

1999-03-24 Thread jrbarnes
Ron, As a product developer, my major concern was getting the Lexmark Marknet XLe approved worldwide. From my viewpoint HAR approval of the jumper cord was equivalent to a bunch of individual country approvals. But Feller is still the only manufacturer that I know of that makes IEC-320 jumper co

RE: dc-to-ac inverter.

1999-03-24 Thread Campi, Mike
Rich/Doug - Regardless of the input the output of the DC/AC inverter must comply with 2.4 of UL 1950 if it could be touched by the user. If it doesn't meet the requirement then it must be enclosed in a fire enclosure and provided a barrier to prevent service personal from accidentally touching it.

Re: Network Equipment and UL 1459/1950

1999-03-24 Thread JPR3
In a message dated 3/24/99, jim.wi...@adtran.com writes: > The only design criteria with regard to insulation in Bellcore standards or UL 1459 is a hi-pots test. > Creepage and clearance do not exist in traditional C.O. equipment (just look at wire wrapped > backplanes). Dear Jim and others:

dc-to-ac inverter.

1999-03-24 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Doug: > My question is this, is it because the inverter has a low voltage input and > they do not have to comply to a standard like EN61010 or UL1950, or is this > something the manufacturers haven't addressed because no one has ever asked? I don't think anyone but the manufacturers c

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1999-03-24 Thread Douglas Best
A question to the experts: My company is considering using a portable DC to AC inverter as an accessory for one of our products, the product will be CE compliant bench top portable class one piece of equipment. This Inverter will be intended to be connected to the DC terminals of a 12 Volt automo

RE: Network Equipment and UL 1459/1950

1999-03-24 Thread Frank McCaughey
A couple of comments: -As Randy and Jim Brunssen will recall, an exhaustive comparison of UL 950 and 1459 took place under TR 41.7.1 For those who still have the paperwork, reams of rationale still abound. This comparison, and the harmonization of UL 1459 and CSA Standard C22.2 No. 225, were the

Demo Equipment

1999-03-24 Thread tdonnelly
Group, Does anyone know of the requirements for demo equipment in Japan. Specifically, a broadband digital transmitter that a customer wants to evaluate. Does the demo unit have to meet all regulatory requirements? Tom Donnelly EMC Compliance Engineer Lucent Technologies tdonne...@lucent.com --

RE: Network Equipment and UL 1459/1950

1999-03-24 Thread Gary McInturff
To emphasis Tania's comments about the telco not providing the hardware, its conceivable that this message got to you without using telco equipment, at least in the traditional sense. It use to be that digital signals were sent over voice lines. Now voice is sent over digital lines and can be done

HAR Cordage - Who needs it?

1999-03-24 Thread RON_WELLMAN
I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into this discussion. Why do you need HAR cordage? It is not mandatory to use it in Europe or the EU. Also HAR cordage can only be manufactured by suppliers in those countries that have accepted the HAR agreement and use HD 21 or HD 22 as their National Standar

Re[2]: EMC Canada

1999-03-24 Thread ron_pickard
Roger et al, Richard is correct. However, according to Industry Canada's web site, ICES-003 is now at Issue 3 dated Nov 22, 1997. Also, the suggested wording can be found in the Annex. Best regards, Ron Pickard ron_pick...@hypercom.com __ Reply Separator _

Re: [Fwd: Re: EN 50024:1998 vs En 50082-1:1992]

1999-03-24 Thread Lfresearch
Brian, I'm not sure that I agree with you on your TCF statement. Our TCF's reference Harmonized documents, when these change I'm expecting that we will have to update our TCF for what ever changes are introduced. You don't agree? Derek. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discuss

RTCA DO 160

1999-03-24 Thread Ian Ball
Help!!! The low frequency radiated emissions uses a Rod antenna with a counterpoise, 1, Is the counterpoise 0.5 or 0.6m square? 2, Is there a standard method of connecting the counterpoise to the earth plane? Many thanks for your assistance Ian Ball <>

[Fwd: Re: EN 50024:1998 vs En 50082-1:1992]

1999-03-24 Thread Brian Jones
--- Begin Message --- ari.honk...@nokia.com wrote: > > The second scenario is correct. > You might consider employing a competent body and use 10.2 route to > compliance. > If a TCF is used instead a harmonised standard, there will be nothing that > could be > superseded. > regards, > Ari > > ---

RE: EMC Canada

1999-03-24 Thread Hart, Michael
For digital devices, I believe the Industry Canada specification is now ICES-003 Issue 3 (November 22, 1997), which references Canadian Standards Association Standard C108.8-M1983, "Electromagnetic Emissions from Data Processing Equipment and Electronic Office Machines". http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/

RE: EMC Canada

1999-03-24 Thread Benoit Nadeau
At 12:41 23-03-99 -0800, Gary McInturff wrote: >Just to fan the fire here. With the grousing around in Quebec whether >English or French should be used. There were some fines for shop owners who >used English only, and if they used both the French had to be larger than >the English. >Ah well! >Gary

RE: EN 50024:1998 vs En 50082-1:1992

1999-03-24 Thread Bailey, Jeff
Erik, My understanding is that your second scenario is correct. Therefore after July 1, 2001 you must either meet 50082-1:1997 or 50024:1998. (Whichever is more applicable of course) As of now you can apply EN 50082-1:1997 or EN 50024:1998 as they are both published in the OJ, they have become

RE: Network Equipment and UL 1459/1950

1999-03-24 Thread JIM WIESE
Thanks Tania for the response. I believe your response shows that there is a need to open dialogue to work out these issues. I will attempt to answer your questions. 1.) In North America (including Canada) the telco providers traditionally have purchased equipment designed around Bellcore GR-10

RE: US/ HAR line Cord

1999-03-24 Thread Crabb, John
I managed to find in the top 6 inches of my in-tray (piled 18 inches high), the Subject 1950 and 1459 letter from UL dated October 26, 1998; Subject: New Issue of Standardized Appendix Pages. These are for ITE (NWGQ), Power Supplies for ITE (QQGQ); Telephone Appliances (WYQQ); and Power Supplies f

RE: EN 50024:1998 vs En 50082-1:1992

1999-03-24 Thread ari . honkala
The second scenario is correct. You might consider employing a competent body and use 10.2 route to compliance. If a TCF is used instead a harmonised standard, there will be nothing that could be superseded. regards, Ari > -Original Message- > From: EXT Collins, Erik D [mailto:collin...@lx

RE: Network Equipment and UL 1459/1950

1999-03-24 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Jim, Thank you for giving us an opportunity to respond. It would have been very helpful if the telco providers referenced in your e-mail were more specific as to why they cannot "harmonize" with UL1950 requirements. By specific, I mean paragraph by paragraph. But let me guess from the few state

Re: Building Main Transformer causes Video Problems

1999-03-24 Thread Lou Gnecco
John, We occasionally solve "wiggly monitor" problems for customers in the washingotn dc area. If he is adjacent to a power transformer, and his tv is wiggling, he is probably getting about 300 milligauss of magnetic field strength. This is a lot, and would not be advisable for a pregnant

Re: Harmonized Standards

1999-03-24 Thread Frank West
I think that the direction and intent of the commission on the use of the OJ in identifying harmonized standards is pretty clear. I do not believe that this should be causing such a conundrum. The OJ lists standards as being relevant to the LVD, and I would say those standards are the harmonized

RE: SEMI E10

1999-03-24 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Richard, There is an Online Documents section of the SEMI Organization at http://www.semi.org/. You will need to pay a small fee and you can receive the document in PDF format. == Doug Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, Colo