Public Telephone access

1999-07-30 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Hello group, Recently I was reviewing a new product that my company plans to manufacture. It has an industrial CPU board and a modem daughter board. During the review my safety consultant brought up the concept that not all public access telephone systems are the same and we would need a modem c

RE: NEBS' Information Request

1999-07-30 Thread Mel Pedersen
Carmen: The Bellcore has not much to do with the EU. The Bellcore requirements are not legal requirements in the US, they are voluntary. I would not count on much luck marketing Telecommunications Equipment in the US without complying with Bellcore requirements however, as all the major RBOC's

RE: NEBS' Information

1999-07-30 Thread Gary McInturff
Pretty much sums up the situation. I would add that if the RBOC's don't have a source and so they need your stuff, they will take it after much grumbling, but they will take it. The risk is more are you so unique that they can't get it elsewhere. It's actually a question worth asking because the t

RE: cost effective EMC facility

1999-07-30 Thread Ehler, Kyle
Is this an oxymoron? I sometimes wish we had a GTEM, but our anechoic screen room has just started to be used for pre-compliance testing and troubleshooting. The workstation consists of a Braden CFC (3000 cu.ft Compact Ferrite Chamber), AR FM2000 isotropic probe, AR 1Kw log periodic, AR 25W1000M7

RE: Fraudulent EMF Research (Cancer and EMF)

1999-07-30 Thread Kealey, Doug
I'd say MSNC, NBC, CNN, CBS & ABC all owe us an explanation of why their so-called 'reporters' and 'talking heads' never reported that this apparently fraudulent research scientist has been under investigation since 1995. In every story that they've done on Cancer and EMF 1995-1999, they should ha

RE: NEBS' Information

1999-07-30 Thread John Juhasz
The NEBS requirements are not mandatory government standards. However, when dealing with RBOCs (Regional Bell Operating Companies) like Bell Atlantic, Pacific Bell, Ameritech, etc . . . it is recommended that you meet the NEBS requirements. If you don't, and your equipment is intended for co-locat

RE: RELIABILITY TO MIL-HDBK-217

1999-07-30 Thread Mel Pedersen
I have a copy, and I believe I purchased it at the Document Center also.   Thier number now is:  650-591-7600   It was less than $100.  I think around $50...not too expensive.   - Mel -Original Message- From: Robert Walch [mailto:rwa...@vectron.com] Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 9:07 AM To:

RE: RELIABILITY TO MIL-HDBK-217

1999-07-30 Thread Richard Cass
Arun, Contact: RAC (Reliability Analysis Center) 201 Mill St Rome NY 13440 They are a research center that created 217 They can be reached at: email: r...@iitri.org web page: http://rac.iitri.org phone: 800 526 4802 for publications My real job (as opposed to my part time EMC/safety job) is re

RE: EU Authorized Representative

1999-07-30 Thread Nick Evans
Nick Having been in the business of helping companies deal with European and international compliance issues for over 10 years I would have to disagree somewhat with your comments. Some of the following comments are going to come very close to looking like advertising for which I apologise in a

fwd: That doesn't make any sense

1999-07-30 Thread bma
Jack, IMHO, how to convince and establish constructive relations with managers and other team members is a big challenge for an experienced EMC engineer. If unfortunately failed, we should improve our communication skills even though we were correct in terms of insisting our professional integ

RE: Operator Interface Displays

1999-07-30 Thread Darrell Locke (MSMail)
Typically the default is the light industrial immunity standard EN50082-1 which calls out IEC 1000-4-2 for ESD. Levels can be up to 15kV. Air discharge is used on insulating surfaces such the keyboard, and contact of metal surfaces. In my expereince most testing is done with the air discharge t

RE: Operator Interface Displays

1999-07-30 Thread Gary McInturff
The standard IEC-801-2/EN set describes ESD testing in general for ITE type equipment but I think they are woefully lacking when you are talking about operator interfaces and things people touch. The rear of a computer cabinet is a lot less susceptible IMO that something that people have to touch

NEBS' Information Request

1999-07-30 Thread Carmen.Filimon
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm looking for information about NEBS compliance. I know there are 3 criteria levels for NEBS compliance devised by Bellcore, to ensure that telecommunication equipment is suitable for the customers needs and to reduce the time and expenses for the manufacturers. Are

RE: That doesn't make any sense

1999-07-30 Thread Gorodetsky, Vitaly
How come I have not seen the original Rich's message posted on July 20? > -Original Message- > From: Schanker, Jack [SMTP:jschan...@adaptivebroadband.com] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 6:37 AM > To: ri...@sdd.hp.com > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: That doesn't make any sens

NEBS' Information

1999-07-30 Thread Carmen.Filimon
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm looking for information about NEBS compliance. I know there are 3 criteria levels for NEBS compliance devised by Bellcore, to ensure that telecommunication equipment is suitable for the customers needs and to reduce the time and expenses for the manufacturers. Ar

RE: cost effective EMC facility

1999-07-30 Thread Gary McInturff
TEM cells large enough for a very small computer are, I believe, available. I don't have the sales literature in front of me and I haven't seen it for awhile, but in my opinion you would be better served if you invest in pre-compliance equipment, a small ground screen etc, even with a less than id

RE: RELIABILITY TO MIL-HDBK-217

1999-07-30 Thread Brumbaugh, David
Information Handling Services has it. (There may be a subscription fee required to use their services.) It can be downloaded in PDF, GIF or TIFF. A search result at their site will bring up the most recent change. However, all previous versions of the document are available by clicking on Docum

Re: cost effective EMC facility

1999-07-30 Thread Lfresearch
Hi, I've got to hedge against testing objects with wiring in a GTEM. They are great for Cell Phones and the like. Attach wiring and results can differ greatly from a shield room test. Derek Walton - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription,

Rockwell Modem, need info.?

1999-07-30 Thread SparacinoG
Good Day Everyone, I'm having a heck of a time getting compliance information from Rockwell regarding one of their Socket Modems (SMV144AC series). We incorporratte this modem onto our motherboard. Simply, I need to know if the Rockwell modem that we use in our product has been recognized to eith

RE: RELIABILITY TO MIL-HDBK-217

1999-07-30 Thread Robert Walch
I have a copy I received snail mail from "Document Center" (415) 591 - 7600. Not sure if they still exist. My copy is about 5 years old. I would do a web search for the DoD. As one of the other replies stated Bellcore would be better for commercial components. MIL-HDBK-217 is unrealistically br

Operator Interface Displays

1999-07-30 Thread Biggs, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA)
Does anyone know of a standard that talks about the testing requirements on a display/keyboard interface. I am interested in knowing what kind of ESD tests to perform on it. Are contact, air and indirect discharge necessary? Does anyone have experience with Operator Interfaces? Are there partic

That doesn't make any sense

1999-07-30 Thread Schanker, Jack
Rich: I want to thank you, and compliment you, for so accurately describing managment reactions to regulatory "problems" in your July 20 posting to the emc-pstc. It completely mirrors my own past (and continuing) experiences. I have also gotten the reaction "well, that doesn't make any sense" i

RE: EU Authorized Representative

1999-07-30 Thread Nick Williams
It could be argued that Nostrum are a competitor of Conformance, so you may want to treat my comments with caution, but I would disagree most strongly with what was said by them on this. The only directive which REQUIRES appointment of a representative within the EU is the Medical Devices Directi

RE: cost effective EMC facility

1999-07-30 Thread Green, Henry
I do not believe that the GTEM is a suitable option for testing a PC due to the size limitations of the GTEM. The GTEM has, for lack of a better term, a "sweet spot" that the EUT has to occupy for optimum results. Although you might be able to place your EUT in the GTEM, it would not necessarily b

RE: EMF Test Data (Cancer and EMF)

1999-07-30 Thread rbusche
It was the latter, I was just trying to be polite and non judgmental. :-) -Original Message- From: Gorodetsky, Vitaly [mailto:vgorodet...@canoga.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:08 PM To: 'rbus...@es.com'; emc-p.

Fwd: EU Authorised Representatives

1999-07-30 Thread Metse
In a message dated 7/30/99 5:55:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, a...@safety.demon.co.uk writes: << emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >> Many of the members and professional services participating in this group resist this type of advertisement. --- Begin Message --- Hi Darrell & members. Authorised R

Re: RELIABILITY TO MIL-HDBK-217

1999-07-30 Thread roger . viles
Arun, I don't have the price for the MIL std, but services or software to predict MTBF using MIL-HDBK-217 or Bellcore data are available from: Amoruso Island: http://www.frontpagepro.com/amoroso/rel_eng.htm Relex : http://www.innovsw.com/index.htm or http://www.relexsoftware.c

Re: EU Authorised Representatives

1999-07-30 Thread Eric Monk.
Hi Darrell & members. Authorised Representatives Ltd. specialize in providing support and 'Authorised Representative' status for importers into the EU. Our background experience is in European and International certification and we can provide a total package of advice, management services and

Design for EMC & Safety Compliance - Free Workshop / Seminar in UK

1999-07-30 Thread roger . viles
If any EMC-PSTC readers in the west of England need help designing products to meet CE and similar requirements, read on! On Tue 14 September a FREE Seminar, Workshop and Exhibition is being held in Exeter, Devon. This is organised by the CE Forum West (formerly an EMC Club) and will offer expe

cost effective EMC facility

1999-07-30 Thread Qu Pingyu
Hello, everyone: I posted an question several weeks ago asking about GTEM. Thanks those who share with me your experience. I may not address my problem very clearly thus I would like to come back to you one more time. We are a R & D orgnization in Singapore mainly dealing with semiconductor indu

Chile power plug

1999-07-30 Thread jae won Yoo
Dear everyone I heard that Chile mandatory power plug according to CEI 2350 by September. Does anyone know information about it? James Yoo jwon...@hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - This message

Re: NSA (using acid)

1999-07-30 Thread Paul McCoy
Brian, The HCl (hydrochloric acid, muriatic acid) combines with the Zn coating forming zinc chloride in place of the oxides also forming water and/or hydrogen gas the reaction goes quickly to completion, the ZnCl is highly soluable and washes or is blown away, leaving clean unoxidized zinc.

RELIABILITY TO MIL-HDBK-217

1999-07-30 Thread Arun Kaore
Hi all, Could someone guide me on where to down load from the net or purchase the latest version of MIL-HDBK-217 and approximately how much it would cost. It is a Reliability/MTBF related issue. Thanks in advance. Regards Arun Kaore EMC Engineer ADI Limited Systems Group Test & Evaluation Ce

Re: Fault Testing Electrolytic Capacitors

1999-07-30 Thread bogdanmm
Bob: My ha'penny's worth: What about increasing the voltage rating of the subject electrolytics? This may be expensive, requiring costly capacitors. Something el cheapo: what about a fuse on the input side of the cap? Are the electrolytics by-passed with capacitors about 0.1 uF or less, with short

Re: Fault Testing Electrolytic Capacitors

1999-07-30 Thread HAhmadi
Bob, Could you let us know the power rating of the power supply and also the topology of the power supply? I have not heard about such a failure as shorting the regulator should not affect the primary DC cap? More information would be helpful. Thanks Homi Ahamdi Cortech Systems - This