RE: EN60950 - conduit entry dimensions

1999-10-06 Thread Jim Eichner
I have received very little response to this one, so I thought I'd post it again. Aren't there any permanently connected ITE equipment mfr's on this forum?! What do you provide in the way of knockouts or ...??? Thanks, Jim Eichner Senior Regulatory Compliance Engineer Statpower Technologies

RE: NEBS Levels..

1999-10-06 Thread Gary McInturff
Mixing apples and oranges here. The original question, see below, was about SR3580 Criteria levels. This has nothing do with test levels. It does appear to address what tests are required but, it more addresses a risk level. If you are selling these folks a typewriter, SR3580 just classifies it

FW: Temperature probe

1999-10-06 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Leslie, See below the recommendation of our thermal engineer. Jim Knighten Dr. Jim Knightene-mail: jim.knigh...@sandiegoca.ncr.com mailto:jim.knigh...@sandiego.ncr.com Senior Consulting Engineer NCR 17095 Via del Campo

RE: NEBS Levels..

1999-10-06 Thread bma
Jim, I cannot help admiring you to have found an article published almost one year ago, which just mentioned a few words about NEBS Levels. Please allow me to cite relative paragraphs from the article you recommended, and then ask some questions. = Citation Even after CLECs

Re: Coatings for Ferrite Tiles? (Magnetic Wallpaper)

1999-10-06 Thread Ken Javor
On point 2, I will try to do the following simple test at EMC Compliance. I will take my DRG horn (1-18 GHz) and place it about one foot from my screen room wall. I will place a directional coupler between signal source and antenna, and measure forward/reverse power at 1 GHz. Then I will take

Re: Attachment Plugs and Power Cords

1999-10-06 Thread Peter Merguerian
Richard, Refer to my answers in the body of your text: I can find nothing in IEC 950 nor EN 60950 that defines the requirements for an attachment plug for equipment that is not permanently connected. Due to the silence of the standard, I conclude that an attachment plug is not required

RE: Temperature probe

1999-10-06 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, I would think a thermocouple would be OK. It should be close to +/- 1 deg. C. If you need better accuracy, try a RTD. It should be +/- 0.1 deg. C. Ned Devine Entela, Inc. Program Manager III Phone 616 248 9671 Fax 616 574 9752 e-mail ndev...@entela.com -Original Message-

RE: Temperature probe

1999-10-06 Thread Leslie Bai
Scott, Thanks for your input. How about the probe? Any recommendation? Thanks Leslie --- Lacey,Scott sla...@foxboro.com wrote: Leslie, The Fluke Model 51 or 52 should be adequate for your needs. These are battery operated thermocouple instruments, single and dual input models. They

RE: Plastics ratings

1999-10-06 Thread Peter Merguerian
Darrell and George, With the window removed does the opening yo create meet the fire enclosure requirements in the standard? If so, per UL1950/EN 60 950 you can declare the plastic part as an electrical or mechanical enclosure part with flame rating of minimum 94HB. You must check your

Re: FW: FCC, UL and CSA requirements

1999-10-06 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear Lopez, UL1419 if product is for professional use or UL1492 if product is not for comercial use. But best is to use UL6500 since it is harmonized with IEC 65. Both UL1419 and UL1492 will be eliminated within a few years and replaced by UL6500. The first edition of UL6500 is currently

RE: Temperature probe

1999-10-06 Thread Lacey,Scott
Leslie, The Fluke Model 51 or 52 should be adequate for your needs. These are battery operated thermocouple instruments, single and dual input models. They are relatively inexpensive, and I would strongly recommend the dual input model for the extra features, as well as the ability to measure

RE: Italy EMI/RFI Testing

1999-10-06 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Dick, good luck in getting a government office to assist you. Since your equipment is not licensed, you have no legal right to expect freedom from interference. Generally, the PTTs just don't care about interference with non-licensed services. Good luck. -- From: Dick

Temperature probe

1999-10-06 Thread Leslie Bai
Hello, group: Seems that my question is not relavent to this group but hope someone there could help. I am looking for an ACCURATE temperature probe ( accuracy is about +/- 1 degree C from -50 to +80 degree C). It will be used to measure the microwave frequency drifting over the temperature.

Re: Schaffner ESD gun Calibration

1999-10-06 Thread Derek Walton
There is a new company in Rockford, IL. that is setting up to calibrate EMC test equipment. They are called Forrest City Instrument Calibration. If you would like info e-mail me, I'll try to get a hold of an electronic version of their brochure... Best regards, Derek Walton. OwnerL. F.

Presentation Availability for Embedded Capacitance

1999-10-06 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
To all interested parties: For all those seeking a copy of the presentation - Good News!! There will be a presentation available in pdf format about 1 week after the meeting. I will send the link out when the download is available. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc

RE: Plastics ratings

1999-10-06 Thread Darrell Locke (MSMail)
When you say sheet form, I assume you mean thin materials like .020-.040 inch. You probably will not find any materials that are rated for the 94-5VA test. There are some thin materials like the GE Lexan FR grade, or Bayer Makrofol EPC that have 94V-0 ratings and may pass your test. Keep in

Italy EMI/RFI Testing

1999-10-06 Thread Dick Grobner
Good Day All - Being a new member (1 mth) on this forum, I want to say it has been very informative. Some of the responses to questions asked are interesting and enlightening to say the least. Some of you have vivid imaginations - which is good! Now lets get to my question. Does anyone know of

RE: NEBS Levels..

1999-10-06 Thread Naftali Shani
To prove the point delivered below, see the Bell Atlantic Check List (now at Rev. 9) that specifically states this: 1.1.1.1.NOTE: Bell Atlantic does not use or endorse the various conformance levels as described in Bellcore (BCR) Special Report (SR) 3580. 1.1.1.2.All suppliers

RE: Plastics ratings

1999-10-06 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Perhaps you could use a metal screen behind the window. The screen would act as the fire enclosure and then the plastic could be rated HB. However, hole size in the screen could be an issue for viewing as well as complying with the fire enclosure requirements. -- From:

RE: A Viral Story

1999-10-06 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: Doug Piper [SMTP:doug.pi...@wovenelectronics.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 7:18 AM To: 'Price, Ed' Subject: RE: A Viral Story Ed, Do you mind telling me what kind of virus filter did you use to catch the virus in the mail server?

Re: Coatings for Ferrite Tiles? (Magnetic Wallpaper)

1999-10-06 Thread eric . lifsey
Ken et al, I don't think these particular mag sheets evoke anywhere nearly so strong a magnetic field, I can't measure it here. But, I can put a strip of it over three different color video monitors in our lab and see absolutely no effect on color purity and no movement of pixels. The stuff

RE: Schaffner ESD gun Calibration

1999-10-06 Thread Le, Ngoc
Here are the vendors that you can try out. Simco 10200 Pioneer Blvd. Santa Fe Spring, CA 90670 800-235-6990 Contact: Jim Merriam or Schaffner 12 Hughes Suite D-106 Irvine, CA 91718 714 (or 949) - 457-9400 Ngoc Le Sr Quality Engineer Newport Corp. -Original Message- From:

Attachment Plugs and Power Cords

1999-10-06 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
I can find nothing in IEC 950 nor EN 60950 that defines the requirements for an attachment plug for equipment that is not permanently connected. Due to the silence of the standard, I conclude that an attachment plug is not required per the standard. Therefore, it appears that the plug wiring

Plastics ratings

1999-10-06 Thread SparacinoG
Hello All, I'm looking for a plastic material that can be used as a window on a fire enclosure door. This material must be available in sheet form, be able to withstand impact and be rated 94-5VA. I referenced the (1996) UL plastics R/C directory and found nada. I know, I need to buy the

Re: Coatings for Ferrite Tiles? (Magnetic Wallpaper)

1999-10-06 Thread Ken Javor
I don't know if the mag sheet would polarize/saturate the ferrite tile, but I have two questions: 1) If the tile were saturated and needed de-gaussing, how could a 1000-4-3 radiated field do this?. The magnetic field density associated with the peak of a 10 V/m field is about 1 mG. This is

Re: Results of SLIM Recommendations

1999-10-06 Thread Lou Gnecco
Joe: check this web site: http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3d/d1/eleng/index.htm it's all there. click on emc, then click on slim. bottom line: they are going to review the emc directive. ( no surprise there.) Lou

Re: Paschen's law.

1999-10-06 Thread Dan Irish - Sun BOS Hardware
Gary, all, The following is from Doug McKean. By the way, at room temperature (20 degrees C, 293 degrees Kelvin) and 1 atmosphere at sea level (760 mm mercury,) this formula simplifies to: V(kV)= 24.2h +6.1(h)^0.5 where V is the breakdown voltage in KV h is electrode spacing in cm.

Colorado Product Safety Technical Committee (CPSTC) minutes for t he September 15, 1999 meeting.

1999-10-06 Thread RichardG
For those of you who are interested in the Colorado Product Safety Technical Committee (CPSTC) minutes for September 15, 1999, please link to the Product Safety Newsletter (PSN) new website at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ Richard Georgerian, CPSTC Chair PSTC Secretary Product

Re: Rental Source for Broadband Source for Chamber Correlation

1999-10-06 Thread Ken Javor
Aside from a comb generator, what do you mean by a broadband source for chamber correlation? -- From: michael.garret...@radisys.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Rental Source for Broadband Source for Chamber Correlation Date: Tue, Oct 5, 1999, 1:29 PM Group, I seem to be having

RE: NEBS Levels..

1999-10-06 Thread Jim Collum
I was going to paste the relevant paragraphs of this article but perhaps the website text might be easier to read. http://www.techweek.com/articles/11-2-98/dsl.htm Jim -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of

RE: SBC TP76200MP DC Power Requirements

1999-10-06 Thread JIM WIESE
You can order programmable relay controllers from Newark or Allied electronics. Omron makes some good ones for this test. They run about $150. The inductor will have to be custom built using E and I cores and if done correctly will weigh about 75 to 100 pounds (assuming you need to source any

RE: Schaffner ESD gun Calibration

1999-10-06 Thread UMBDENSTOCK, DON
Hello Randall, We have the same model. We have ours calibrated at Liberty Labs (www.liberty-labs.com). They are responsive and price competitive. Hope this helps. Don Umbdenstock Sensormatic -- From: randall.flind...@emulex.com[SMTP:randall.flind...@emulex.com] on behalf of

Re: Rental Source for Broadband Source for Chamber Correlation

1999-10-06 Thread Derek Walton
Hi folks, I've thought about seeing if anyone was interested in a time share scheme for such a device, perhaps with 12 members. Cost would be about $300, each getting it for a month on rotation, or for short duration's if needed urgently. By the way, a good 10 MHz and 100 MHz SMD oscillator

SBC TP76200MP DC Power Requirements

1999-10-06 Thread Jerry Martin
Does anyone have any experience with SBC's TP76200MP document? I'm specifically looking for information on how to do some of the tests in Section 8 DC Power. Where can I get/make an Electronic Switch/Relay of Figures 8-3 and 8-5? Where can I get/make the 0.08 H inductor? Any help is

Re: NEBS Levels..

1999-10-06 Thread b...@attcanda.net
This question comes up again and again. Not necessarily in this forum, but from Sales Engineers all over the world. Please, Please keep in mind that these levels ARE NOT endorsed by any North American Telcos that I know of (please prove me wrong). Each Telco seems to have their own set of

Results of SLIM Recommendations

1999-10-06 Thread MartinJP
Is anyone aware of the results of the SLIM III recommendations per the Report of the SLIM III Team on Electromagnetic Compatibility Directive (89/336/EEC as amended) dated 9/98. I had heard that the Commission was going to produce a Communication to the Council of Ministers and the European

Paschen's law.

1999-10-06 Thread Gary McInturff
A small blurb on this came across the list-server awhile ago, unfortunately, I moved companies and apparently didn't get this out of my electronic filing cabinet. Did anyone else save this tidbit? And would they forward it to me again. It was the basic formula and a brief discussion of the