Re: R: R: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-08 Thread Ken Javor
The point is that RE/CE protect broadcast bands. Making an RE measurement (E or H field, regardless) from a LAN line a couple meters long is not representative of what you would measure if the LAN line were significantly longer, as it might be in situ. Therefore a CE measurement can be better

RE: R: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-08 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Paolo, Physics does work the same on both side of the Atlantic, but human rationale does not necessarily! Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions -- From: Paolo

RE: HALT/HASS Testing

2000-09-08 Thread Darrell Locke
HALT. Highly Accelerated Stress Testing. This can go by other names. This is where you stress the product (prototype stage typically) using a number of criteria, the most common being temperature extremes and vibration. You test first to determine the operational limits of the EUT (fails to

RE: 90 V gas-filled arrestors source?

2000-09-08 Thread Dan Kinney (A)
Schaffner does. They can be reached at 800-367-5566 or 732-225-9533. Dan Kinney Horner APG -Original Message- From: David Gelfand [SMTP:gelf...@memotec.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:07 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: 90 V gas-filled arrestors source?

T1E1.418-2000

2000-09-08 Thread Dwight Hunnicutt
Anyone know where to obtain a draft copy of the new HDSL2 Interoperability standard T1E1.418-2000? I believe the document is still undergoing final revisions, but a recent draft copy would be a big help. Thanks... D -- _ DWIGHT HUNNICUTT

RE: R: R: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-08 Thread eric . lifsey
All, As Ghery reported before (lost in the recent threads, but copied below), the closely related issue cf definition creepage is being addressed by CISPR SC G and is already is CDV stage but not yet FDIS. If it isn't already too late, this might be the best or only opportunity we'll get for

90 V gas-filled arrestors source?

2000-09-08 Thread David Gelfand
Hello group, Does anyone know who makes gas-filled arrestors called for in IEC 1000-4-5 coupling networks? Would a MOV be ok? Thanks, David. David Gelfand Regulatory Approvals Memotec Communications Inc. Montreal Canada

RE: Hot Flaming Oil Test

2000-09-08 Thread Colgan, Chris
I hope you don't live in the UK, the cost of the fuel would make the test far too expensive to perform$1.22 for a litre of diesel! Regards Chris Colgan EMC Safety TAG McLaren Audio Ltd mailto:chris.col...@tagmclarenaudio.com -Original Message- From: Kenneth McCormick

RE: UL 723

2000-09-08 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard is absolutely correct. It's like trying to compare a match stick to a bon fire. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com I just went through this myself. There is no real correlation between UL94 flame ratings and

RE: Hot Flaming Oil Test

2000-09-08 Thread Kenneth McCormick
I am glad that I was able to assist in allowing Rich to earn his keep. I received several responses both public and privately...most said the same thing, it is a difficult test to conduct and comply with. Many thanks to those that responded, your advice and expertise have given me several

RE: R: R: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-08 Thread David_Sterner
Paolo, You bring up an interesting point about FCC. FCC recognizes CISPR 22:1985 is as an alternative test method. The 1985 version does not specify emissions on LAN or telco. FCC Part 68 specifies conducted emissions only on mains cables over 450kHz

Hacking of RCIC

2000-09-08 Thread ed . rauch
Article in Tech News about the hacker. http://technews.netscape.com/news/0-1005-200-2722466.html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif.ni Apparently he hacked many sites to spread his message. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical

Re: R: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-08 Thread Guy Story
Ken, that is not what Mike is saying. Mike's statment was to the effect that if the noise can get out of the EUT then noise from another source can get in. A point of exit can also be a point of entry for EMI. This applies to all types of launching mechanisms, not just cables. Also, just

RE: Safety of mobile phones.

2000-09-08 Thread WOODS
It can be found at http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/lv/rec519.pdf http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/lv/rec519.pdf Richard Woods -- From: Allan G. Carr [SMTP:e...@agctel.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:47 PM

RE: SAR

2000-09-08 Thread rfm
Intertek Testing Services in Menlo Park, CA. can do the SAR tests. They can be reached at ph 650-463-2900 fax 650-463-2910 or find them through the web site www.etlsemko.com. Bob Martin, PE, NCE Sr. Technical Manager Intertek Testing Services http://www.etlsemko.com (978)263-2662

Re: Near field measurements

2000-09-08 Thread WmFlan
Mr Woods 1) I've never used a lab for these tests so I can't help there. 2) Several outfits make/sell these probes - all isotropic: Narda Microwave East (Mr. Johnson), Holaday Indutries (Ms. Turja), and Wandel-Golterman, (absorbed by Chase, absorbed by Schaffner absorbed by Narda???), Mr.

R: R: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-08 Thread Paolo Roncone
Ken and Cortland and many others that entered this subject : First, radiated emissions are best measured with radiated (not conducted) measurements. There is a correlation between CM currents and RE but that's not all (resonances, cable layout etc. count a lot). Second, you say that CE are

Farewell.

2000-09-08 Thread David Monreal
Dear all, for two years I've been focusing all my efforts and neuronal juice to Advanced Shielding Technologies. Though I'm not an engineer, I studied three years Electronics Engineering but left it. I used to fail on Physics... and used to hate it too. Anyway, I've learnt mucho more physic

Re: SAR

2000-09-08 Thread Douglas C. Smith
Hi Ron, I believe Elliott Labs in Sunnyvale, CA does such testing and have a very good customer focus. Doug ron_cher...@densolabs.com wrote: I am trying to get a list of labs that can perform SAR testing on the West Coast, (CA). Thanks, Ron DENSO

Re: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-08 Thread Douglas C. Smith
Hi All, I could not resist adding my two cents worth. In the last several years I spent at Bell Labs in NJ (moved to CA 4 1/2 years ago), part of my funding came from a group that was responsible for UTP (Cat 5) and associated hardware. On immunity performance, we were not able to find a

Safety of mobile phones.

2000-09-08 Thread Allan G. Carr
Can anyone please point me towards a copy of the Official Journal of the European Communities Council Recommendation 1999/519/EC dated 12 July 1999 on the limitation of exposure of the general public to electromagnetic fields (0 Hz to 300 GHz). I have checked the EC OJ site but it is no longer