RE: Standards hierarchy

2000-10-10 Thread Jim Eichner
To summarize and conclude this thread: 1. If you ignore all consideration except the rules for CE Marking and the EMC Directive, and if you have a product family standard that does not call out any other standards (for example EN61000-3-2), and if that product family standard has been published i

RE: comparison of ESD per MIL - 1686B to EN61000-4-2

2000-10-10 Thread Brumbaugh, David
I don't know if this is what you are after: MIL-STD-1686B rates ESD sensitivity of class 3 parts, assemblies or equipment at sensitivity levels ranging from 4000 to 15999 volts. I don't see a subclass rating (i.e., 3a) Appendix C of this standard requires testing at 2000 volts for assemblies a

Principal Compliance Engineer

2000-10-10 Thread Nazeeh Shaheen
Position: Compliance Engineer ITE Equipment BSEE or equivalent Familiarity with LAN/WAN technologies Product Safety EMI/EMC Network Attachment NEBS Location: Occam Networks 4183 State Street Santa Barbara, CA 93110 Company: Occam Networks is an early stage start up which received initial Series

Re: PCB temperature ratings

2000-10-10 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Richard: > When a PCB is rated 105C or 130C or whatever, what does that really mean? > Can I really operate a 130C rated board at a maximum surface temperature of > 130C for years without being concerned about reliability or safety? Is there > a relationship between de-rating and r

RE: PCB temperature ratings

2000-10-10 Thread Gary McInturff
I was just having that conversation with our PCB design guy, and here is what I think we know, and its not much. The 130 degree C temperature is a NRTL imposition on the maximum continuous temperature of components touching that board, and I believe it also tends to set the maximu

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

2000-10-10 Thread Rich Nute
I think this discussion has bogged down into too much detail. Overcurrent protection is required to provide protection against overheating and fire (and sometimes shock) when a fault occurs. For plug-and-socket connected products, a mains fuse is used to provide protection against LOAD fa

RE: PCB temperature ratings

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard - Basically, yes, though you may want to throw in a fudge factor to assuage your caution/due diligence monkey. FYI: The Maximum Operating Temperature (this is a normal operating condition temperature) for a PWB is based on accelerated aging testing, and comparing "as received" performance

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

2000-10-10 Thread Maxwell, Chris
Point well taken. You're right, safety is relative. I think that your message (below) points to the fact that products that are double line fused should have labeling to say that they are double line fused (as the clause in EN 60950 that you mention points out) It also points to the fact that

Coniferous Wood in Packaging

2000-10-10 Thread Russell, Ray
I'm sure that many of you, as well as myself, under the label of Regulatory Compliance, receive many issues outside of Safety/EMC. Usually if it has an acronym, involves a foreign country, falls under the heading of a regulatory requirement, or sales/marketing don't know who can handle it, it land

Compliance Global list information

2000-10-10 Thread Richard Lee
Dear Group, Thank you very much for all the wonderful feedback information from the emc-pstc group in regards the compliance global issue. Regards, Richard - Terawave Communications Phone: 510-

comparison of ESD per MIL - 1686B to EN61000-4-2

2000-10-10 Thread Michael Taylor
Does any one have Mil Std 1686B handy??? Need to compare test levels between Mil Std 1686B, Class 3a and EN61000-4-2. Any help will be appreciated. M. Taylor Hach Company Loveland, Colorado --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Techn

PCB temperature ratings

2000-10-10 Thread WOODS
When a PCB is rated 105C or 130C or whatever, what does that really mean? Can I really operate a 130C rated board at a maximum surface temperature of 130C for years without being concerned about reliability or safety? Is there a relationship between de-rating and reliability or safety? Richard Wo

SCV EMC Society Meeting - Tuesday, October 10, 2000

2000-10-10 Thread Neven Pischl
Invitation to: SCV EMC Society Meeting BLUETOOTH - A Viking King Tuesday, October 10, 2000 The October Santa Clara Valley EMC Society meeting will be held at SGI in Mountain View, 1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy., building 40, in the Presentation Center above the lobby. Dinner will start at 5:30, and the

RE: Compliance Global list information

2000-10-10 Thread Collins, Jeffrey
Here are the CE and CB scheme countries segregated by EFTA, EEA, EU membership: Jeffrey Collins MTS, Principal Compliance Engineer Ciena Core Switching Division jcoll...@ciena.com www.ciena.com The following is a list of CB countries: Austria Australia Belgium Canada - China Czech R. Denmark

Re: Compliance Global list information

2000-10-10 Thread Barry Ma
It seems to be www.cbscheme.org, instead of www.cbscheme.com -Barry --- On Tue, 10 October 2000, geor...@lexmark.com wrote: Go to www.cbscheme.com and click on "Countries" George Dear Group, Where can I get a global agency certification list that showed

RE: Australia Safety

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Richard - What is required is approval by any of the individual state's governmental bodies in Australia. I can't find my list of authorities at the moment, but perhaps someone else can. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@nortelnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Chris Maxwell asks: "Can anybody shoot a hole in this theory with a single fault condition?" This subject has been debated before, on this list and elsewhere. Safety is always relative. In the scenarios you painted, Chris, the phase conductor always has an intact fuse after the neutral fuse open

CB Scheme

2000-10-10 Thread georgea
I thank all those who corrected my posted URL for the CB Scheme! After 37 years of professional experience, I could claim that the "clock rate" of the CPU in my head is the same as 1963, but that my fingers are far faster. Alas, I fear the opposite is the more likely scenario. George

Re: Australia Safety

2000-10-10 Thread georgea
Richard, I will pass along what I know, which may not completely answer your question. Yes, external power supply "adapters" do require mandatory safety certification. Since you mention laptop computers, I suggest the appropriate standard would be that for ITE. Until recently, the applicable s

RE: Compliance Global list information

2000-10-10 Thread David_Sterner
That should be "www.cbscheme.org" -Original Message- From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:49 AM To: r...@terawave.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Compliance Global list information Go to www.cbscheme.com and click on "Countries

RE: Label Rub test per IEC60950

2000-10-10 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, The requirement is for "The petroleum spirit to be used for the test is aliphatic solvent hexane having a maximum aromatics content of 0,1 % by volume, a kauri-butenol value of 29, an initial boiling point of approximately 65 °C, a dry point of approximately 69 °C and a mass per unit volume o

Re: Compliance Global list information

2000-10-10 Thread paul_j_smith
Richard, For participating countries refer to http://www.cbscheme.org/cbcntris.htm Regards, Paul J. Smith, Teradyne, Boston Richard Lee on 10/09/2000 05:54:10 PM Please respond to Richard Lee

RE: Compliance Global list information

2000-10-10 Thread JMurphy
Should be www.cbscheme.org -Original Message- From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:49 AM To: r...@terawave.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Compliance Global list information Go to www.cbscheme.com and click on "Countries" Geor

FW: RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-10 Thread Jon Bond
Several people have requested the information on the R&TTE notification process we just went through. I tried to post it to the group, but as the message says below, the zip file was too big (~315K zipped). If anyone is interested in the forms mentioned below please contact me via email and I'

Australia Safety

2000-10-10 Thread WOODS
Is safety certification mandatory in Australia or New Zealand for external power supply "adapters" such as the types used with laptop computers? If so, what is the mandatory safety standard and which agency certifications are accepted? Richard Woods --- Th

RE: Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

2000-10-10 Thread Maxwell, Chris
Guys and Ladies, All this talk about Deltas, Wyes, panelboards ... I think we're missing the point here. For one thing, I assume that we're all talking about fuses inside a product. I've seen some responses dealing with circuit breakers... I leave that stuff up to the Electricians. I would ass

Re: Compliance Global list information

2000-10-10 Thread georgea
Go to www.cbscheme.com and click on "Countries" George rlee%terawave@interlock.lexmark.com on 10/09/2000 05:54:10 PM Please respond to rlee%terawave@interlock.lexmark.com To: emc-pstc%ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Compliance Glo