RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread Gary McInturff
Chris, Chris, Chris. How can I get the flames of discontent spreading around the globe if you are always mediating things - heavy sigh! Richard made a very similar point this morning and I don't have a problem with testing to the EMC and Safety standards. Do it all ready - I just

cows, seriously

2000-11-14 Thread Jim Costello
I have only read a couple of the lighter responses to the question of electric fence voltages and was amused. However, in case the original poster was researching an existing livestock problem, there is a problem, usually referred to as "stray voltage," that affects dairy and other animals. It h

Re: RE: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc)

2000-11-14 Thread mrbob
Not bad, you may have missed your calling ! oover...@lexmark.com wrote: > This was quite a moooving exchange.Gert was obviously on the horns of a > dilema. Even though there was a lot at steak, I believe that Gert was steered in the right direction. In addition to the voltage, the current would

RE: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc)

2000-11-14 Thread ooverton
This was quite a moooving exchange. Gert was obviously on the horns of a dilema. Even though there was a lot at steak, I believe that Gert was steered in the right direction. In addition to the voltage, the current would depend on whether your beef was ground(ed) but you can't hide from the real ri

RE: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc)

2000-11-14 Thread CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more...
Thanks for your replies; i know it's a funny question but it seems that cows really care .. Regards, Gert Gremmen, (Ing) Ce-test, qualified testing == Web presence http://www.cetest.nl CE-shop http://www.cetest.nl/ce_shop.htm /-/ Compliance testing is our cor

RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread Gorodetsky, Vitaly
Chris - The following quote from your message addresses, I believe, the essence of the debate: So, if we assume that the device already meets ITE standards for EMC and Safety? What more testing would the R&TTE directive require? I'm just wondering if the device would b

RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread Cortland Richmond
It seems -- in our haste to include USB handsets under the Directive -- we have ignored computer microphones. Yet the microphone -- if the handset is subject -- SHOULD be subject to it. It is no less likely to be used for communications than a handset connected to the computer, once we are doing V

RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread Maxwell, Chris
My company doesn't have any USB products (yet), so I'm just an innocent bystander. But sometimes a bystander can provide a "mediating" point of view. (or maybe stir things up a little) What if I were to play devil's advocate? What if we assume that the R&TTE directive did apply? What if we also

RE: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread Naftali Shani
By the logic presented by Theo, if you surf the Internet via your TV (cable modem and the rest), even your TV or the remote becomes a subject of the R&TTE! There must be a demarcation point, and I think that Richard is correct. I am including the following disclaimer which I got from an earlier c

RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread Gary McInturff
John, et al. I intended to mention that earlier but left it out. I agree with the volume control and that has an applicable section in the safety standards for that. I would imagine, but don't know for certain that there are industry standards for the functional features

RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread John Hare
All, For a non-radio USB device, if you meet the essential requirements of the LVD and EMCD, don't you meet the R&TTE essential requirements too? Why the argument? Put all three on your DoC and call it a day! Regards, Paul Hare p.s. - I still hold the position that there are a couple of Part

RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread WOODS
Let's think about this logically. I have a PC with a microphone and speakers that allows me to speak with persons using the internet. Does that mean that my PC, monitor, keyboard, microphone and/or speakers form part of a telecommuncations terminal. I don't think so. Now I get smart and replace m

Nov. 10, 2000 EMC/Telco/Product Safety Update Now Available

2000-11-14 Thread Glen Dash
The Curtis-Straus Update (formerly Conformity-Update) for the week ending Nov. 10, 2000 is now available at: http://www.conformity-update.com This week's headlines are: FCC TCB PROGRAM -- IT WORKS. FCC'S ULTRA WIDE BAND RULES RAISE A RUCKUS. FCC LAYS OUT BATTLE PLANS FOR ENFORCEMENT. LAB CERTIF

Re: Forum Invitation and Looking for Electrical Photos

2000-11-14 Thread Electrical-Safety - Bill Addiss
I would like to thank anyone who visited this forum yesterday. It has been brought to my attention that the E-mail-this-to a friend and E-mail notify (if someone responds to your post) features are not working properly and have been turned off. It seems that our mail server has a filter in pl

EN55011 Group 1 and Group 2

2000-11-14 Thread Duane R. Bagdons
Hello group, It is my understanding that Group 2 devices as per the standard definition are devices that use electromagnetic radiation for the treatment of material and spark erosion equipment. In Annex A, under Group 2 the standard declares Thyristor-controlled equipment. My question relates to

RE: FW: Compliance of a USB telephone

2000-11-14 Thread H.T. Hildering
Dear all, The R&TTE is meant for terminals. If my message was not clear enough I repeat here once again the R&TTE scope (see below). I disagree with Gary regarding his statement that an USB telephone, computers and other indirectly connected stuff are not falling under the R&TTE scope (connected d