Re:Insulation failure - recent data

2000-12-06 Thread Jim Bacher
If anyone is working on such a paper, please consider presenting it at the TC-8 session of either the 2001 or 2002 IEEE EMC Symposium. Jim (Yes I am a little behind in reading the postings). Reply Separator Subject:Insulation failure - recent data Auth

Re: EN55024 & 55022 my 2p..

2000-12-06 Thread ChasGrasso
Hello, Just want to throw my 2p --ooops 2c in. This issue ( of ITE universally being Class B ) is not new. It started way before 1995 when the generic standards were released mandating that all equipment NOT tested to the heavy immunity should be tested to Class B emissions. I remember distinct

RE: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread William D'Orazio
Richard, I agree! But why define a product standard (EN55024 in particular) that defines limits that are only appropriate for a residential, commercial and light industrial environment. Am I missing something? Thanks in advance, William D'Orazio CAE Electronics Ltd. Electrical System Design

Current revision of the aircraft Standard (RTCA-D0-160?)?

2000-12-06 Thread William D'Orazio
Gents, I have a couple of questions concerning equipment onboard aircrafts: I was just wondering if the current revision of RTCA-DO-160 is D. Is it possible that manufacturers are still using B. As I do not have the B revision of the standard, does the B revision have a

RE: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread O'Shaughnessy, Paul
Whoa! I work in CISPR 11 land, but as I recall, CISPR 22 works almost identically in this regard. The difference between CISPR 11 and 22 is what TYPE of equipment it is. CISPR 11 covers Industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment. CISPR 11 covers Information technology equipment (ITE).

Re: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread CDUPRES
Hi Ghery. You wrote: << The law is 89/336/EEC, the EMC Directive (or as I like to call it, the EMC Professional Employment Act of 1989). It lays down, as you note, the essential requirement that a product not cause undue interference and that it operate as intended in its itended environmen

FCC Part 18: Conducted emissions frequency range versus LISN performance

2000-12-06 Thread Patrick Lawler
I'll be testing a product to FCC Part 18 for the first time, and I'm trying to familiarize myself with the limits in this requirement. In section 18.307(a), conducted emissions limits are specified for ultrasonic equipment. They start at 10kHz, and stop at 30MHz. Yet the measurement procedure s

RE: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread WOODS
The answer to this debate is included in the essential requirement that a product not cause undue interference and that it operate as intended in its intended environment. The key is the intended environment. Class A equipment installed in a residential environment would not comply with the essent

RE: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Let's discuss apples vs apples and keep the discussion to ITE. Household appliances are not subject to EN 55022:1998, but have their own product specific standard. The law is 89/336/EEC, the EMC Directive (or as I like to call it, the EMC Professional Employment Act of 1989). It lays down, as y

RE: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more...
Hi Ghery,group, Standards are NO LAW ! My reply was directed against the Clause in EN 55022, not against the possibility of EN 55022 to define suitable environments. However, there is a standards writing committee guidance document that requests the committees not to deviate more then absolutely

IEEE Standards for IEE Members

2000-12-06 Thread Michael . Garretson
Nick, I have confirmed that there currently is not a reciprocal agreement for discounting of the price of the standard for our IEE colleagues. I will note that the member discount is $17 for the print version and $26 for the electronic version, which would likely pay for 20-30% of an IEEE membe

Re:Grounding

2000-12-06 Thread Jim Hulbert
I agree that grounding is a complex topic which can't be fully covered within this forum. However, I must make a general comment with regard to single point ground versus multi-point ground for a digital board. There is in fact no such thing as a single point ground for a digital board becaus

RE: Calibration labs

2000-12-06 Thread eric . lifsey
All, If you worry like I do about equipment loss, damage and other Murphy type effects, ask your local cal lab if they will do on-site calibrations. We had our Haefely Trench burst and surge testers calibrated recently on-site by PCI here in Austin, Texas. The cost was very reasonable, plus it

Re:Grounding

2000-12-06 Thread brian_kunde
Hello Praveen, The topic in which your question addresses is "Grounding". Grounding is one of the most complex topics EMC engineers have to deal with especially in a design that has both Analog and Digital circuitry. Most every case is different and there are thousands of variables to consider

RE: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Gert, All ITE equipment must meet the Class B limits? Where does it say that in either EN 55022:1998 or CISPR 22, 3rd Edition? Section 4.1 of CISPR 22 is quite clear about what equipment must meet the Class B limits. There are many types of ITE that do not fall into the examples provided in th

RE: Calibration labs

2000-12-06 Thread UMBDENSTOCK
We schedule in advance and usually get 1 week turnaround on cal plus shipping time. We specify 2nd day Fedex. This makes the disruption to our lab scheduling a minimum. Winter can pose some unexpected delays due to weather conditions on the open area test site. Plan your cals for summer when p

IEEE Standards

2000-12-06 Thread Nick Williams
I'm wanting to obtain a copy of IEE STD 739-1995 which I know can be downloaded from the IEEE web site. However, I was wondering if, as a member of the British IEE, there is any kind of reciprocal agreement where I can obtain IEEE documents at the IEEE member price. Does anyone know anything

RE: EN55024

2000-12-06 Thread CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more...
Hi Group, The type of clause (see below) from EN 55022 about adding notes and restrictions to equipment is just the type the European Commission objects against their use in the EN 55022 standard. The reason is that the CENELEC was asked to propose limits and test methods, not to replace politics

Grounding

2000-12-06 Thread Praveen Rao
Hello Group, We currently have a system which has modules in a box(metal) with floating digital and analog grounds.It is a Class 1 (safety) equipment. We intend to connect the 0V of each board to protective earth (chassis) at a common single point at the power supply. By doing this, the conduc