Re: Define Continuous DC Voltage

2001-11-08 Thread Doug McKean
eric.lif...@ni.com wrote: > > So friends, how continuous must DC be to qualify as continuous DC? Personally, I'd say when the source can deliver some sufficient level of real power (rms level of power). That is basically the definition of rms anyway. To make the point with two ridiculous exa

RE: Definitions - Safety Critical, Safety Circuit

2001-11-08 Thread Gregg Kervill
My experience agrees with yours Gert - there is no simple formula to follow. In my early days as a PSE I tried to draw a flow-diagram of product safety assessment and decisions. On the first line I had about 20 options and each of those dropped down to about 20 more - many of which interlocked..

Re: [Fwd: User Warning Signal Words]

2001-11-08 Thread Douglas_Beckwith
From: Douglas Beckwith@MITEL on 11/08/2001 11:09 AM Sounds like it should be changed to either "Alert", "Note" or similar. Does anyone know where this requirement comes from? Regards Doug "Robert Macy" on 11/07/2001 08:59:35 PM Please respond to "Robert Macy" To: Douglas Beckwith/Ka

RE: Definitions - Safety Critical, Safety Circuit

2001-11-08 Thread CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more...
Hi Dough, Group, I agree that is approach is much more simple to understand, but most definitions up to now have the problem of defining A LOT of components as safety critical. The safety critical parts need much more attention then just specification and name it. They need to be maintained in br

Re: [Fwd: User Warning Signal Words]

2001-11-08 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that douglas_beckw...@mitel.com wrote (in <85256afd.00759dd5...@kanmta01.software.mitel.com>) about '[Fwd: User Warning Signal Words]', on Wed, 7 Nov 2001: >for example in the UK you are required to put >an EMC Class A "warning" note in the documentation. This is nothing spec

Re: Definitions - Safety Critical, Safety Circuit

2001-11-08 Thread Doug McKean
Couldn't we just go to the front of the UL1950/60950 standard and agree that a "safety critical part or device or circuit or construction" is simply something used "... to prevent injury or damage due to: - Electric shock hazard - Energy hazards - Fire hazard - Mechanical hazard - Heat

Re: [Fwd: User Warning Signal Words]

2001-11-08 Thread Robert Macy
Perhaps, it's time to utilize "Alert" instead of "Warning" for Class A compliance information. - Robert - Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com 408 286 3985 fx 408 297 9121 AJM International Electronics Consultants 619

RE: Have we lost something? was John Woodgate - RE: New EMC standards; now CISPR24/EN55024 query

2001-11-08 Thread John Shinn
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Re: Define Continuous DC Voltage

2001-11-08 Thread Bill Owsley
Us OLD guys used to think that digital was two levels of voltage - back then +5VDC and 0VDC. Thus DC could also mean Digital Computers. Way back then, the things did run relatively slow compared to these days so the AC signal you think of was only the step function of getting from one level t