Re: Fw: working voltage measurement

2001-12-21 Thread Cortland Richmond
One can also use a pair of probes known to be well balanced and take the difference between the A and B channels, or use a differential input accessory or plugin. There is then no possibility of high-voltage on the instrument chassis. Cortland (my own thoughts, and nor those of my employer)

Re: surges on 24VAC

2001-12-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Mavis, Robert rma...@pelco.com wrote (in B2CC0E0F2C10D511B86600B0D0689842024F816C@localhost.pelco1) about 'surges on 24VAC', on Fri, 21 Dec 2001: The AC Mains test is just that AC Mains. The Definition of AC mains is basically what comes out of the wall. Since the

RE: surges on 24VAC

2001-12-21 Thread John Juhasz
If the 24V AC is generated via a Class II Direct Plug-In power pack, wouldn't the test be run 'through' the power pack - the power pack plugged into the outlet on the surge tester? The power pack runs off of AC Mains. For argument sake, what's the difference of that scenario as compared to

Re: High Frequency Pre-amp

2001-12-21 Thread Robert Macy
Just a reminderalways make certain that no signal gets in to saturate, or even start to overdrive, your amplifier at frequencies you're not looking at. - Robert - Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com 408 286 3985 fx 408 297 9121

Re: power supply to GOST 30429-96

2001-12-21 Thread Robert Macy
Low frequency conducted noise is usually generated by the periodic demand on the energy storage cap (greatly, greatly affected by esr). This noise is differential and no y-cap (unless it's so large it becomes a killer size, and then not really) will stomp on it. Your first problem (conducted

RE: High Frequency Pre-amp

2001-12-21 Thread HALL,KEN (HP-Roseville,ex1)
Hello, Miteq JS22-00050800-15-14P with 40 dB gain, 30 to 8000 MHZ Contact Rizwan Syed at 631-439-9458 Miteq AFS66-00102650 - 45-5P-66 40 dB gain Agilent 83006 10 MHz to 26 GHz 20 dB minimum Agilent 83017 The Agilent amplifiers are not as sensitive to ESD as the Miteq's. The gain of the

Re: EMI guard bands

2001-12-21 Thread Ken Javor
The limit for RE is based as I said in an earlier message on the television band rf signal level required to get a specified base band video signal-to-noise ratio. The fact that the interference coupling mechanism is near field is not important, except of course as it affects measurement

Re: High Frequency Pre-amp

2001-12-21 Thread Ken Javor
MITEQ and Mini-Circuits come to mind for octave and multi-octave band amps. HP (Agilent) makes the the 8348A covering 1 - 26.5 GHz around $14 K. The HP model has a 10 dB noise figure and 25 dB gain below 20 GHz. With MITEQ you can pick your noise figure and gain from a large variety of models.

New China Compulsory Certification

2001-12-21 Thread cecil . gittens
From: Cecil A. Gittens Does anyone have information about products that will required EMC certification to meet the new China Compulsory Certification system. It was mentioned that they will host meetings in the future to introduce this new system. Regards Cecil

RE: Inquiry of IEC Safety Standard of Antitheft Surveillance Devi ces

2001-12-21 Thread Constantin Bolintineanu
Dear Oliver, For the European Market, as per EN50131, the Power supplies for Intruder alarm systems shall comply with the applicable requirements of EN60950, EN60529 (Electrical safety portion). I can not foresee any reason to do not extrapolate this fact to the IEC Standards...60950, 60529.

RE: surges on 24VAC

2001-12-21 Thread Mavis, Robert
The AC Mains test is just that AC Mains. The Definition of AC mains is basically what comes out of the wall. Since the product is 24VAC it falls under low voltage/signal lines. Test is as a signal line. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Banh [mailto:jb...@bb-elec.com] Sent: Monday,

Inquiry of IEC Safety Standard of Antitheft Surveillance Devices

2001-12-21 Thread Oliver Su
Hi group, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Does anyone know what is IEC Safety Standard of Antitheft Surveillance Device, which is standed at the exit/entrance door of commerical store and department to detect/prevent any merchandise with magnetic piece being stolen. It is wireless and as

RE: RJ45 filtered -possible solution

2001-12-21 Thread Chris Maxwell
Reginald, I was somewhat pessimistic about your chances of finding what you were looking for. I just got some literature today which mentions a company called Lumburg. They have some bulkhead Ethernet adapters; the likes of which I haven't seen from anyone else. Try www.lumbergusa.com.

power supply to GOST 30429-96

2001-12-21 Thread Lou Guerin
Dear Fellow EMC workers, I am trying to get a SMPS to pass this GOST standard and am having a devil of a time getting it done. After 3 days of mitigation testing at our local lab we are still out at the low frequency range 10-60kHz and at 15-50MHz. We pass the Class A limits for CISPR 22 but

Re: High Frequency Pre-amp

2001-12-21 Thread Lfresearch
Bob, the Schaffner preamp goes to 3 GHz I believe, Derek. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your

Re: Fw: working voltage measurement

2001-12-21 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Xing Weibing: One of the problems of making oscilloscope measurements within switching-mode power supply circuits is that the common side of the oscilloscope *MAY* change the waveform. There are two ways to minimize the effect of the common side of the scope from affecting the waveform:

Re: EMI guard bands

2001-12-21 Thread Doug McKean
John Woodgate wrote: I would be suspicious of that; it is a 'near-field' scenario, which means that the emission field strengths are complex and impossible to calculate. The Class B limits are related to a 10 m separation of source and potential victim, and that implies far-field conditions

Official IEC FAQ for IEC 61508 (Functional safety of E/E/PE SRS)

2001-12-21 Thread ggarside
I thought some PSTC subscribers (especially any involved in safety systems that depend at least in part on software or electronics) might be interested in this. The IEC has recently (Dec 2001?) posted an FAQ for IEC 61508, Functional safety of electrical/electronic/programmable electronic

RE: RJ45 filtered connector

2001-12-21 Thread Dan Irish - Sun BOS Hardware
Ron, Yours is an interesting suggestion to use filtered DB25 connectors on the chamber connector panel, and RJ45-DB25 adapters inside and out. My only comment would be to be careful of DB25 filters with any significant capacitance from signal to shield. When used with RJ45 adapters, these

High Frequency Pre-amp

2001-12-21 Thread reheller
This question may have recently posted but I'm not able to search the archives so I'll ask again. We have an immediate need for a pre-amp above 1000 MHz. Would you be so kind as to let me know what brands/models and frequency range you are using. Any pro/con insights would be welcome as well.

RE: RJ45 filtered connector

2001-12-21 Thread Chris Maxwell
Happy Holidays Reginald, Corcom also makes flanged/filtered RJ45 (or 8 pin modular, if you prefer) jacks. I have seen many manufacturers that filter these jacks (Amphenol, Amp, Corcom, possibly LZR...). Most of them have already been mentioned. Problem is, I'm not sure what you mean by a

Re: EMI guard bands

2001-12-21 Thread Ken Javor
The CE limits were designed entirely empirically but the RE limits were based on EIA TV standards that require a specified signal quality for a given rf input level. The RE limits were simply set X dB below that EIA specified level. My recollection is that the rf level specified would be a

Well Wishes

2001-12-21 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
Hey folks, Happy Holidays for those celebrating! Kaz Gawrzyjal Dell Computer Corp --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/

RE: RJ45 filtered connector

2001-12-21 Thread John Shinn
Acutally, the term RJ is used by the FCC for designating connectors that are part of the registration (now approval) process. So why would you want to call a ethernet connector by a designation used by the telephone industry? I am not going to police the use of the term, but I wanted to put that

Re: EMI guard bands

2001-12-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Doug McKean dmck...@auspex.com wrote (in 006801c18988$24b4a2a0$3e3e3...@corp.auspex.com) about 'EMI guard bands', on Thu, 20 Dec 2001: Anywho, the answer I got back from him was that the limits were empirically derived in reference to interfering with television