Re: case of units

2002-06-27 Thread Ken Javor
I don't believe Ed was wrong at all, in most any case I can think of he was precisely correct. Whether you use 10 log () or 20 log () depends upon whether the ratio that is the argument of the log function is power or something related to power by a square-law relationship. The most obvious of t

RE: Multiple Product Variants under EN60439.

2002-06-27 Thread David Sproul
Thanks Nick, I knew that what was happening with the CB wasn't right, but I was afraid to challenge them since they would presumably know more than me, and therefore in some way may have been able to justify what they were (are) doing. As for the EN60439 issue, I have found that certain labs will

Re: EN 60 335 Question

2002-06-27 Thread Nick Williams
Peter, The answer should be yes. EN 61558 is included in the normative references list of EN60335 as amended by AMD 13050 of August 2001. Regards Nick. At 11:43 +0200 27/6/02, Peter Merguerian wrote: Dear All, It has been a long time since someone raised an EN 60335/IEC 60335 issue! I a

Re: Multiple Product Variants under EN60439.

2002-06-27 Thread Nick Williams
David, Replies in the text of your questions... At 17:25 +0100 26/6/02, David Sproul wrote: Dear Group, As you will all know, under the EMC Directive a range of product variants can be covered by a Technical Construction File. A company who manufactures control panels for large industrial

RE: SEMI - EN standards cross reference

2002-06-27 Thread Collins, Jeffrey
John, I agree with your statements as I've correlated EN standards to satisfy a customer who wanted S2 compliance. I believe our last statements in our email sums it all up. "You may want to get a copy of SEMI S2 and identify the delta's between S2 and your EN certifications to your customers."

EN 12895

2002-06-27 Thread reheller
Can anyone tell me which Directive the following standard falls under (is harmonized to): EN 12895 Industrial Trucks - Electromagnetic Compatibility Thanks, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --

ELF Emissions

2002-06-27 Thread Price, Ed
Hello Listmembers: A recent thread was discussing the effects of RF emission on plant life in a rural environment. I finally managed to remember that the US Navy had become embroiled in this same environmental question when they attempted to construct a huge ELF antenna system in Michigan and Wi

RE: case of units

2002-06-27 Thread Price, Ed
I proposed the capacitance unit of dBF with tongue firmly planted in cheek. And yes, maybe 10 Log is more proper than 20 Log (hey, 44.5 dB error is as close as I get sometimes). OTOH, the more I think about it, resistance, inductance and capacitance values in practical circuitry exist over such a

PMM 8010 and 8030

2002-06-27 Thread Kim Boll Jensen
Hi all I have just got a PMM 8010 and 8030 but without software, I can only download a WIN update from PMM not the whole software. Can some one help me with a copy of the original software ? Best regards, Kim Boll Jensen <>

RE: SEMI - EN standards cross reference

2002-06-27 Thread wmccafferty
Hi Just to clarify that SEMI S2 although primariliy being driven in the US is used worldwide within the Smiconductor industry with more European customers expecting the product to meet the requirements of the relevant SEMI documents. William Co-chair SEMI Europe EH&S standards committee "C

EN 60 335 Question

2002-06-27 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, It has been a long time since someone raised an EN 60335/IEC 60335 issue! I am honored to be the person. Can a plug-in power supply evaluated to EN61558-1 and EN61557-2-6 be used without further investigation in a EN60335-1 type product? This e-mail message may contain privileged or c

RE: case of units

2002-06-27 Thread Wan Juang Foo
Dear all, I wonder if dBF is 20 log C or 10 log C ? My personal guess is that if VA= V² Z and Z=sC then I suppose dBF should carry a 10 log tag. Could Ed be 44.5 dB off the mark? Just my 2 ¢ worth. (On an aside, I must say this hidden character thingy is rather fascinating , cents is [Num Loc