RE: docopocoss

2002-11-05 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:04 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: docopocoss I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200211051744.jaa26...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about

RE: ITE standard - hot air

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Johnson
Vijay, I am not aware of standards specifying this, but in practical terms, heat transfer would depend on airspeed, time, surface area, etc. For example, high speed air would burn much faster than convected air. If this is a significant safety concern rather than a standards compliance question,

RE: docopocoss

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Johnson
Bob Johnson ITE http://www.itesafety.com/ Safety -Original Message- From: Robert Johnson [mailto:john...@itesafety.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:34 PM To: 'Rich Nute' Subject: RE: docopocoss docopocoss This word was unknown to me. I checked an American

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that don_borow...@selinc.com wrote (in of32a3a512.366695dc-on88256c67.00802...@selinc.com) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: Part 1. This measurement will NOT give just the resistive part of the source impedance. Your post is so long that it is not

RE: Medical Devices Environmental Requirements

2002-11-05 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, In the USA the FDA has a guidance document that some of the branch's (i.e. Anesthesiology and Respiratory) use. See http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/ode/638.pdf This includes both EMI, and mechanical and environmental requirements. Ned Devine Entela, Inc. 3033 Madison Ave. SE Grand Rapids, MI

Re: common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com wrote (in 0h54004a5a4...@mtaout05.icomcast.net) about 'common mode immunity coupling units' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: Because the Europeans think that is the right impedance to simulate a generic transmission line/antenna far from ground.

Re: common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan, Chris chris.col...@tagmclaren.com wrote (in AE0F4BD08FEAD211895900805FE67B1F01425ABF@CAT) about 'common mode immunity coupling units' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: Please forgive my ignorance but can anyone tell me why above are designed to give load and source impedances

Re: docopocoss

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Roman, Dan dan.ro...@intel.com wrote (in 3d90571297abd511957400508bf29c43022cc...@pysmsx101.py.intel.com) about 'docopocoss' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: Yes, with apparently only one user of this word on the face of the planet! :-) You mean little MEEE? -- Regards, John

Re: docopocoss

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200211051744.jaa26...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'docopocoss' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: docopocoss This word was unknown to me. I checked an American dictionary and could not find it. Then, I called up the Google search engine and entered

RE: ITE standard

2002-11-05 Thread Eric Petitpierre
On November 5 Sylvia Toma writes; GR-65 (Network Equipment Building System Requirements: Physical Protection) has a section (4.1.4) on Heat Dissipation.Table 4-6 outlines the equipment area heat release for individual frame, multi-frame and shelf equipment for both natural convection and

RE: Medical Devices Environmental Requirements

2002-11-05 Thread Jim Conrad
Have you checked 60601-1? Jim -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Naftali Shani Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:27 PM To: 'Mandel, Joel'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: Medical Devices

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread HALL,KEN (HP-Roseville,ex1)
Hello, UL emc in Northbrook has the capoability http://www.ul.com/emc/ Regards, Ken Hall -Original Message- From: robert.s...@flextronics.com [mailto:robert.s...@flextronics.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:16 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Measuring AC

RE: ITE standard

2002-11-05 Thread Sylvia Toma
GR-65 (Network Equipment Building System Requirements: Physical Protection) has a section (4.1.4) on Heat Dissipation. Table 4-6 outlines the equipment area heat release for individual frame, multi-frame and shelf equipment for both natural convection and forced-air fans. -Original

(Fwd) Medical Devices Environmental Requirements

2002-11-05 Thread jgriver
Joel, To the best of my knowledge, there are no specific environmental standards for medical equipment. IEC 60601-1, (the product safety standard), clause 10.1, states Equipment shall be capable, while packed for transport and storage, of being exposed to environmental conditions as stated

Test Equipment Developers Wanted

2002-11-05 Thread FastWave
EDD is a world leader in the manufacture, sale, and distribution of Product Safety Test Equipment. We are in search of turn-key test equipment developers for both standard off-the-shelf and custom Product Safety Test Equipment = some products are all mechanical, some are primarily electrical,

RE: common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-05 Thread Gert Gremmen
As the average cable impedance of real life cabling has a mean value of 150 Ohm. Or...at least not 50 Ohm. When routing cabling on 3 cm height a very good approximation is achieved (this is using EN 61000-4-6). Regards, Gert Gremmen ce-test, qualified testing Rotterdam, The Netherlands

Re: common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-05 Thread Ken Javor
Because the Europeans think that is the right impedance to simulate a generic transmission line/antenna far from ground. I recall a Ph.D. with a Dutch name making the case that 150 Ohms for CDNs and the like was much better than 50 Ohms. One thing's for sure, on a qualitative basis. All the

Re: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com wrote (in nebbkemlgllmjofmopleaedbebaa.peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com) about 'EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: Note 1: Generally the date of cessation of presumption of conformity will be

Re: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com wrote (in nebbkemlgllmjofmoplececpebaa.peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com) about 'EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: Yes, I have tried speaking with a NB (one of the NCBs I mentioned is also an NB

RE: Medical Devices Environmental Requirements

2002-11-05 Thread Naftali Shani
Are there any customers-specific requirements? In the telecom industry, NEBS/ETSI (Telcordia GR-63 ETS 300 019) come to mind. Regards, Naftali Shani, Catena Networks (www.catena.com) 307 Legget Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K2K 3C8 613.599.6430/866.2CATENA (X.8277); C 295.7042; F 599.0445

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread Robert . Seay
Does anyone know of a source of test equipment, purchase or rental, or a test house on the US east coast that can perform the click test described in CISPR 14? Thanks, Robert Seay Flextronics Compliance Labs 762 Park Avenue Youngsville, NC 27596 ---

RE: docopocoss

2002-11-05 Thread Roman, Dan
Yes, with apparently only one user of this word on the face of the planet! :-) TLAs are bad enough, 10LAs I can't handle (guess that would be a TLA as well). Dan -Original Message- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:44 PM To:

docopocoss

2002-11-05 Thread Rich Nute
docopocoss This word was unknown to me. I checked an American dictionary and could not find it. Then, I called up the Google search engine and entered the word, hoping to find an English dictionary. Google immediately came back with the definition. Rich

ITE standard

2002-11-05 Thread Wani, Vijay (V)
Group: I am looking for ITE standard (UL or any other) for maximum allowable exhaust air temperature from information technology equipment? thank you in advance. vijay wani --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee

Medical Devices Environmental Requirements

2002-11-05 Thread Mandel, Joel
Hi All Can anybody help me out with Environmental testing requirement/Standards (Temp,Vibration) for medical devices? Thank You Joel Mandel Reliability Dept ADC Israel --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee

common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-05 Thread Colgan, Chris
Please forgive my ignorance but can anyone tell me why above are designed to give load and source impedances of 150 ohms? Cheers Chris Colgan Compliance Engineer TAG McLaren Audio Ltd The Summit, Latham Road Huntingdon, Cambs, PE29 6ZU *Tel: +44 (0)1480 415 627 *Fax: +44 (0)1480 52159 *

RE: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread Richard Hughes
Peter, The note you are referring to is in the OJEC. If you wanted to paraphrase it, one option would be We (the Commission) have the responsibility for directives and not you (CENELEC). Therefore, we'll set the Date of Cessation to be equal to the Date of Withdrawal providing that we can be

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread Don_Borowski
Referring to below... Part 1. This measurement will NOT give just the resistive part of the source impedance. Let Rs = source resistance, Xs = source inductive reactance, and Rl = load resistance, Xc = test capacitor reactance (= 1/2piFC), F = 50 or 60 Hz, and Voc = open circuit voltage. The

RE: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Richard - You will also note that Note 1 of the list of harmonized standards states: Note 1: Generally the date of cessation of presumption of conformity will be the date of withdrawal (‘dow’), set by the European Standardisation Organisation, but attention of users of these standards is drawn

RE: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Thank you, Richard; an illuminating script. Thank you, also, to all those that have replied to me, on and off the list. The crux of my present situation is this: we have a customer that is claiming relief from having to comply with the next edition of the standard and is citing an excerpt from

RE: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread Peter L. Tarver
John - Yes, I have tried speaking with a NB (one of the NCBs I mentioned is also an NB under certain of the Directives). Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com From: John Woodgate Peter L. Tarver

RE: Semiconductor Equipment for Japan, China, Korea and Singapore

2002-11-05 Thread Gordon,Ian
Peter In that case you need to look at the SEMI standards. These are industry standards which are NOT legally enforced but do have similar scopes to the European machinery directive, EMC directive and low voltage directive. Basically if the EUT is CE marked then there is a good chance it will be

RE: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread Richard Hughes
Peter, I provide below a very detailed explanation of why I, as an individual, believe that it is a good idea to comply with standards whose references fall within the 'date of cessation' as published in the OJEC. Those who are not interested in safety or the minutiae of the LVD should stop

Mercury and Europe

2002-11-05 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, I am seeking information regarding the import of mercury containing products into Europe. The product in questions contains a Mercury tilt switch. The switch is encapsulated in epoxy resin (along with the rest of the components) inside a durable, watertight A.B.S case. I would like

RE: EN60742

2002-11-05 Thread John Allen
Hi Folks Having taken a very brief look at the EN mentioned by Nick, the essential differences appear to be the addition of Annexes ZA, ZB ZC: ZA - Testing of a series of transformers (i.e for a family of related designs - which means that there is also probably something relevant elsewhere in

Semiconductor Equipment for Japan, China, Korea and Singapore

2002-11-05 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, I would like to have some information regarding regulatory requirements for semiconductor equipment for use in the countries specified above. As always, thanks and have a great day. This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended

voltage across seams

2002-11-05 Thread Doug Smith
Hi All, I have posted my latest Technical Tidbit to http://emcesd.com a few days ago. The article is titled Measuring Noise Voltage Across Seams in Enclosures. This is one of those useful benchtop measurements that can help avoid compliance problems at the test lab. The intro and link to

Re: EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com wrote (in nebbkemlgllmjofmoplemeciebaa.peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com) about 'EN60950:2000 EN60950-1 last dates of manufacture' on Mon, 4 Nov 2002: I now wish to change my query, to alleviate the irritation some may have felt at