New England EMC Society Chapter - meeting on March 5th

2003-02-28 Thread shusterman_bo...@emc.com
Electromagnetic Compatibility Society - 7:00PM, Wednesday, 5 March Frequency Domain Power Distribution Measurements Istvan Novak, Senior Staff Engineer, SUN Microsystems, Inc. In today's advanced digital systems, the power-distribution networks often have to deliver hundreds of watts at low

Re: dmax test

2003-02-28 Thread jj
Dear All But it must be understood for equipment that is intended to be left on all the time, the fact that you have switch on transients is not relevant.. So if the argument is, well what happens in a power cut ? 1. This is not an EMC problem, hence can not be controlled by the EMC

RE: Sharp Object

2003-02-28 Thread Joshua Wiseman
John, I ran across this website after I had already asked the question. I particularly like the last label on this page. http://www.safetylabel.com/catalogs/vie .php?page=2catalog=1category=16nextpage=Next+Page+%3E%3E Thanks, Josh In particular, the sharp object labels on the following

Re: dmax test

2003-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk wrote (in e18ohm0-000bwv...@anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) about 'dmax test' on Fri, 28 Feb 2003: I agree that switch-on is the most likely culprit in a EMC sense, and that the cooling of mitigation devices (thermistors etc) is important. I was

Re: dmax test

2003-02-28 Thread ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk
I agree that switch-on is the most likely culprit in a EMC sense, and that the cooling of mitigation devices (thermistors etc) is important. I was merely pointing out that the standard specifically states: switch off the EUT before the end of the 1 min measuring time intervalI suppose

RE: Sharp Object

2003-02-28 Thread John Allen
Josh I had a similar enquiry a few months ago, and came to very much the same conclusions as the other people who have replied to you, but found that there is a way around the problem because the international standards on hazards labelling are only prescriptive as regards the styles and colours

RE: refurbished products

2003-02-28 Thread Juhasz, John (IndSys, GE Interlogix)
Brian, If you're talking about the EMC Directive, the following link should provide you with guidance. http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/chapsev.htm Here's a more general link that could provide you with information.

RE: Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread Gordon,Ian
Ian Yes, the products should have been re-tested and a new D of C raised to reflect this. Depending on what they are you may find that there is now a product standard which relates to specifically that product group. In that case you should apply this and not the generic standards i.e. 50082-1

EDN article

2003-02-28 Thread drcuthbert
Here is a link to my latest EDN Design Idea article (Transmission line tests 1-kW device using only 100W): http://ww .e-insite.net/ednmag/index.asp?layout=a ticlestt=000articleid=CA276211pubdate=2%2F20%2F2003spacedesc=designideas Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology This

Re: dmax test

2003-02-28 Thread ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk
Annex B of EN61000-3-3 says that both the switch on and switch off events should occur during each of the 1 minute tests. Steve Seller York EMC Services On 25 Feb 03, at 9:26, djumbdenst...@tycoint.com wrote: We have a HP HFTS (harmonic and flicker test system) 6843A that runs the

FW: PSTN... end of line Production tests

2003-02-28 Thread Alex McNeil
Hi Forum, I have had one kind gentleman offer his advice on this topic. I would be very grateful if a few other knowledgable people could offer a comment. I will summarize the comments for those who answer me direct. Sorry to have troubled you again. Previously, production assembly line testing

Re: Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that McBurney, Ian [Allen Heath UK] ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com wrote (in BC4E3DA2E1C8164D9CBE2DF1595DCC 76011...@gandalf.allen-heath.com) about 'Superseded standard' on Thu, 27 Feb 2003: Can anyone tell me when products tested to EN 50082-1:1992 and still in

RE: FR4 Temperature Index

2003-02-28 Thread Harrison, Rick
Hello all, Talk to your board fab shop or get your hands on a copy of IPC-4101A Specification for Base Materials for Rigid and Multilayer Printed Boards. It contains detailed spec sheets for about 100 different laminates with different UL flammability ratings. FR4 is usually either IPC-4101/21

RE: Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread Luke Turnbull
Or just re-test now to 61000-6-1. Luke Turnbull Colgan, Chris chris.col...@tagmclaren.com 02/27/03 12:52pm EN50082-1:1992 was withdrawn on 1 July 2001. Products tested to that standard should have been re-tested to the :1997 version which will in turn be withdrawn on 1 July 2004 and

FR4 Temperature Index

2003-02-28 Thread peter merguerian
Dear All, Most boards are UL rated 105deg C and 130 deg C. These ratings may be based on a generic temperature index based on the laminate generic temperature index rating, also assigned by UL. I would like to find out the overall conecensus rating of a board that is using FR4 laminate material

RE: D of C for medical P.S.

2003-02-28 Thread boconn...@t-yuden.com
Makes sense to me, but we are not shipping to a customer on this side of the pond... So the consensus is, that I write the power supply's D of C to conform to the LVD, and cite EN 60601-1 (the standard referenced in the unit's agency certifications and CB Report). thanks much, Brian Would

Re: refurbished products

2003-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Brian Epstein brian.epst...@veeco.com wrote (in 41c71af75675d54bb97c2fadcae7f994260...@exchange.di.com) about 'refurbished products' on Thu, 27 Feb 2003: If a customer in the European Economic Area who purchased a product before CE marking was required returns

Sharp Object

2003-02-28 Thread Joshua Wiseman
Hi all, I am looking for the symbol for sharp objects. So far I have had little success in finding it. I have an out of date edition of IEC 417 in my office but I don't see it in there. Can someone point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Josh Josh

Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread McBurney, Ian [Allen Heath UK]
Sirs; Can anyone tell me when products tested to EN 50082-1:1992 and still in production should have been retested because the 1992 standard has now been superseded. I assume any reports and declaration of conformity documents issued for products declaring conformity with EN 50082-1:1992 are now

Re: Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread rehel...@mmm.com
EN 50082-1:1992 was superseded by EN 50082-1:1997 on July 1, 2001. EN 50082-1:1997 will be superseded by EN 61000-6-1:2001 on July 1, 2004. Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252

RE: Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread Colgan, Chris
EN50082-1:1992 was withdrawn on 1 July 2001. Products tested to that standard should have been re-tested to the :1997 version which will in turn be withdrawn on 1 July 2004 and superceded by EN61000-6-1:2001. You are correct that any DoCs referring to EN50082-1:1992 are not valid. Regards

RE: dmax test

2003-02-28 Thread djumbdenst...@tycoint.com
Good point, Steve. Minor adjustment in the procedure takes care of it. Thanks for the comment. Regards, Don Umbdenstock Sensormatic -- From: ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk[SMTP:ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk] Reply To: ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003

refurbished products

2003-02-28 Thread Brian Epstein
If a customer in the European Economic Area who purchased a product before CE marking was required returns that product to the manufacturer to be refurbished, is that manufacturer required to make all modifications necessary to CE mark that product before returning it to the customer? Thanks in

Re: Sharp Object

2003-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Joshua Wiseman jwise...@printronix.com wrote (in f503cb4657afd4119b9400508bb0d6540695c...@irvmail.printronix.com) about 'Sharp Object' on Thu, 27 Feb 2003: I am looking for the symbol for sharp objects. So far I have had little success in finding it. I have an out

RE: Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
EN 50082-1:1992 was supperseded by the 1997 version on 1 July 2001; and therefore no longer provides for the persumption of conformity to the EMC Directive after that date. If you wish to continue to use harmonized standards as the basis of conformity, you will have to use current standards. And

Re: dmax test

2003-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk wrote (in E18oS6s- 000baf...@anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) about 'dmax test' on Thu, 27 Feb 2003: Annex B of EN61000-3-3 says that both the switch on and switch off events should occur during each of the 1 minute tests. It's a good idea to