RE: Australia/New Zealand Wiring Rules

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Peter, There is no specific DC branch line or dc mains supply wire sizes called up for Australia or NZ. I believe that providing you use the ac wire sizes specified in AS/NZS 3008.1.1 as a guide and calculate an equivalent wire size for dc based upon the ac wire sizes you can not go far wrong.

RE: ERA Report 69-30

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Thank you, John. I've just tried both my local university library and the Library of Congress. Some ERA documents are there, but not the magical 69-30. Having the organization's full name goes a long way. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@ieee.org > From: John Woodgate > Sent: Tuesday,

Re: job hunting

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Jim Boecker, Maybe Brent DeWitt might fill your engineering position for your EMI/RFI form-in-place gasketing company in CO. Regards, Steve Toyama Advanced Conductive Materials - Original Message - From: "Dewitt, Brent G (MED)" To: "EMC-PSTC List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, December 08,

Meeting Tonight! SCVEMC, Santa Clara, CA

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
All Welcome, Bring a colleague IEEE membership not required but encouraged! Tuesday, December 9th, 2003 Joint Meeting with SCV Product Safety Chapter (PSES) Down Memory Lane; 30 Years of EMI Field Testing By: William H. "Bill" Parker, PE, NCE, PARKER EMC ENGINEERING Details

Re: ERA Report 69-30

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver wrote (in ) about 'ERA Report 69-30' on Tue, 9 Dec 2003: >ERA Report 69-30 appears to exist in the shadows of other documents. It >is referenced by a number of standards for wiring rules, but the >document itself does not show up in standards suppliers

RE: CE Marking for low voltage products

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello Richard The product is a demonstration fixture to be used by our distributors in the sales process and will not be sold to the general publicI should have been a little clearer when I said "Do some internal testing" The plan is to evaluate the product to IEC60065 and complete a CB test

Re: CE Marking for low voltage products

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan Christopher [Soundcraft UK] wrote (in <31F4BED1E7C6814C99079DB01681234E1B015 7@HPROUKX3>) about 'CE Marking for low voltage products' on Tue, 9 Dec 2003: >We have small mixing desk powered by 12V. We purchase an already safety >tested (to EN61558)and CE marked po

Re: Multiple Radios- one box, Europe?

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that George Smith wrote (in <20031209151246.50568.qm...@web40808.mail.yahoo.com>) about 'Multiple Radios- one box, Europe?' on Tue, 9 Dec 2003: >Can the client create one box and one set of documentation that covers >all radio notificaitons? For instance- can more than one "

Job opportunity: Electrical Engineer for forensic investigations in Denver, CO.

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Greetings All, For those of you who are electrical engineers and like forensic investigations, please read below. For further information, the contact name is listed at the end of the message. Thanks. Richard = Richard Georgerian Compliance Engineer Carrier Access Corporation 5395 Pea

Re: How do I do this test?

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Gary McInturff wrote (in <9f347458edacb64b8ff57db67e6e0faa6ec...@cerebrum.spraycool.com>) about 'How do I do this test?' on Tue, 9 Dec 2003: >There is another example of class I and class II insulations in >parallel that may be sitting on your desk at the moment. I've se

Re: Surge and EFT/B for medical equipment

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
One possible reason (not a rational) ... The title page of EN60601-1-2:2001 indicates it is the same as IEC60601-1-2:2001. I would expect an IEC standard to be written to accommodate international uses of a product. Pat Lawler (change nett to net to reply) On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:12:17 -0600, r

ERA Report 69-30

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
ERA Report 69-30 appears to exist in the shadows of other documents. It is referenced by a number of standards for wiring rules, but the document itself does not show up in standards suppliers or general web searches. Perhaps it's too old to be in current publication. Can someone help me find

RE: How do I do this test?

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Just dawned on me. There is another example of class I and class II insulations in parallel that may be sitting on your desk at the moment. I've seen electronic systems that had primary wiring from the AC input module that was routed along grounded SELV circuits. I presume the sa

Multiple Radios- one box, Europe?

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Does anyone have experience with this? ..A client has a consumer electronics ITE equipment. ..The client wishes to place the equipment on the market in the EU. ..The product (a Personal Computer) can contain any one of four intentional radiators. ..All radios are 802.11x variants from differn

RE: CE Marking for low voltage products

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
How about the following as a scenario? We have small mixing desk powered by 12V. We purchase an already safety tested (to EN61558)and CE marked power supply and put it in the gift box with the mixer. The mixer and power supply were tested as a system by us for EMC compliance. After some though

Re: CE Marking for low voltage products

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
John, Further to my earlier Email, and those from others, you need to consider how you are going to supply your product and any spare parts. As I mentioned earlier and as has been expanded upon by others, if you are going to supply the complete product in a single box then that will need to be CE

Re: UL60950-1 update

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Neil, The rules for participating in standardisation vary from country to country. In the UK, the requirement is not that a person is 'recommended' by a trade organisation but that they 'represent' a particular industrial sector: the way this is achieved is by representing a trade association. I

Re: CE Marking for low voltage products

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Ablewisp - Compliance Engineers wrote (in ) about 'CE Marking for low voltage products' on Tue, 9 Dec 2003: > >John > >The instructions supplied with your product should state that the >product must only be used with the supplied power cube. > >  > >S

Re: UL60950-1 update

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Neil Helsby wrote (in <20031209.8440...@mis.configured.host>) about 'UL60950-1 update' on Tue, 9 Dec 2003: > > > >>> Original Message << > >On 08/12/2003, 21:27:42, John Woodgate wrote >regarding Re: UL60950-1 update: > >> >As I read more

RE: CE Marking for low voltage products

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
John The instructions supplied with your product should state that the product must only be used with the supplied power cube. Stuart Miller From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Tyra, John Sent: 08 December 2003 23:06 To: emc-p...@major

Re: UL60950-1 update

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>> Original Message << On 08/12/2003, 21:27:42, John Woodgate wrote regarding Re: UL60950-1 update: > >As I read more of these standards, I become more discouraged and they > >really need not be so complex. > I suggest you participate in the work, so that you

Re: CE Marking for low voltage products

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in <63.25e8df9b.2d068 2...@aol.com>) about 'CE Marking for low voltage products' on Mon, 8 Dec 2003: > > >Of course, if you ship the charger and the speakers in an overall >shipping carton then it would be advisable for that carton to

Re: How do I do this test?

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200312090134.raa09...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'How do I do this test?' on Mon, 8 Dec 2003: >My comment was to suggest that such crosses within the walls and >ceilings of homes in the USA are rare, I'm not really addressing homes at all, but a f

Re: How do I do this test?

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200312082301.paa09...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'How do I do this test?' on Mon, 8 Dec 2003: > > > >Hi John: > > >> For professional audio, it's common to design to Class II requirements >> and then add an earthed screen in the mains or SMPS isol

Re: How do I do this test?

2003-12-09 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200312082248.oaa08...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'How do I do this test?' on Mon, 8 Dec 2003: > > > >Hi John: > > >> But what it is really NOT to be used for is anything that has wiring >> installed in the walls and/or ceiling voids. This wiring i