Re: IP testing again, but in China

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear John, SIEMIC InfoTech (China) Ltd can do IP testing in Beijing, China ( www.siemic.com.cn). Pls bear in mind, most of IP products are NOT able to get China MII approvals at this time, i.e. China MII (ministry of Information Industry) has not fully acceptance of IP products for two reasons

RE: Heart pacemakers - Vulnerability to EM

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I have just a bit of personal experience in testing implantable pacemakers and volumetric infusion pumps. I had been doing RF immunity studies for a manufacturer, circa 1990, using an FDA standard (MDS-401-xxx?) for medical electronic devices. I exposed devices to fields as strong as I could

RE: Heart pacemakers - Vulnerability to EM

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
The standards EN 50061 /EN 45502-2-1 are dealing with the immunity of pace makers. Immunity is tested in a torso simulator and a specific antenna to transmit close to water at the right frequency. The problem is not the pacemaker itself, it is the fact that the sensors provide a good antenna.

RE: Heart pacemakers - Vulnerability to EM

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I am no expert in this subject, and some of what I am about to say is hearsay, but here it is for what it's worth. Safety levels are generally based not on field strength, but on power density. However, these levels are set for the power absorption of the body (in W/kg) based on the heating

RE: Using TEM cells for radiated emissions at 30MHz

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Pat - You might be interested in a presentation on this very subject (albeit using a GTEM) that was presented at one of our EMC Society meetings last year. Go to http://www.ieee.org/rmcemc and click on archives. Look for the May 20th 2003 link and download the paper titled : Prediction not

RE: Heart pacemakers - Vulnerability to EM

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I don't know what the standards call for but it is quite possible for a person to be subjected to an E-field exceeding 500 V/m very near to an amateur radio station. This is the field at my operating position when I am transmitting at 1.8 MHz. A cell phone held close to the body will cause a

RE: NEBS Compliance of Single ATCA card

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hello Duncan, Although I don't have an answer, you might also want to post this at the NEBS WEB Group. It is located at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nebsweb Somebody there may be able to assist you as they all deal with NEBS issues. This was formally the NEBS Forum on IEEE but was migrated

NEBS Compliance of Single ATCA card

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Group, One division of our company is looking to design an ATCA card that is designed to be installed in telco applications, although not directly connected to a telco network. The card is to be sold as a single card for systems integrators and therefore requires a chassis or frame to be able to

Re: IP testing again, but in China

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
In article 20041119055032.90761.qm...@web14826.mail.yahoo.com, peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com writes John, TUV Rheinland China can do the testing. http://www.tuv.com/en/index.php Thank you. I have forwarded your message to my colleague. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO -

Re: International power supply required markings

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
David, See answers in body of your message. David Heald hea...@symbol.com wrote: Greetings all, I wanted to run this by everyone to see if there is some consensus out there (not that it would matter if we're all wrong anyway, but...) We know of the following countries that require special

Re: IP testing again, but in China

2004-11-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
John, TUV Rheinland China can do the testing. http://www.tuv.com/en/index.php John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: A colleague of mine would be grateful for information on a lab that can do IP testing ... in China. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. The good