Thanks Rich - that answers that one!
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I am not fixated on testing but there is comfort that goes with test data. If
you have a vendor who can't understand (or won't understand) what you need you
can circumvent a lot of wasted effort by testing. I chase parts data and its
easier to test than it is to pry data or a report from a v
Without going into the details of my customer's needs, my customer requires
that equipment be "certified" to having met requirements. That means testing,
not a declaration of conformity without testing. I was simply trying to
confirm that an FCC label provides my customer that assurance, but the
Hi Jim:
> I agree, but if you go for a paper copy you lose the ability that I
> assume the web-based service gives you: to download (or copy to
> clipboard) soft copies of the symbols. Can someone tell us if the
> web-based version allows this?
I have an electronic copy of 417 (which an
Ken,
You seem to be fixated on testing. So sorry if this seems like a personal
attack, but it is you who keeps pushing the word TEST.
You state that you are not concerned with fraud and you assume that the FCC
label or CE mark has been legally placed on a product. Perhaps you also
assume that t
Thank you, that takes care of that issue.
> From: Cortland Richmond <72146@compuserve.com>
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:21:44 -0500
> To: ieee pstc list
> Subject: Re: Meaning of CE mark
>
> Ken Javor asked,
>
>>> This is very important information. Do the phrases:
>
> "Tested To Comply With F
I agree, but if you go for a paper copy you lose the ability that I
assume the web-based service gives you: to download (or copy to
clipboard) soft copies of the symbols. Can someone tell us if the
web-based version allows this?
Jim Eichner, P.Eng.
Compliance Engineering Manager
Xantrex Techn
Ken Javor asked,
>> This is very important information. Do the phrases:
"Tested To Comply With FCC Standards" or
"Assembled From Tested Components (Complete System Not Tested)"
appear right on the label affixed to the product or do you have to dig
through an owner's manual to find them? <<
H
For UL I.T., the materials must be approved for the operating conditions,
IP, and WV.
IEC 60950-1, 2.10.8 Spacings filled by insulating compound
Where distances between conductive parts are filled with insulating
compound, including where insulation is reliably cemented together with
insulating co
The only source I can find for this seems to be a $400.00 US subscription
service. I'd rather not keep paying for the same information every year. Does
anyone know of a source for a paper copy.
Thanks
Gary
This message
is from the IEE
BSI Standards, off the top of my head it's 200 USD charge for a paper copy if
you're a member
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They are supposed to be part of the label. Now, the label has been
changed (simplified), so wording is less, but whatever is required is
supposed to be on the label if there is room. If there isn't room, it
may be in the manual.
Ghery Pettit
Intel Corporation
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Hi Everyone,
A happy new year to you all.
Now for my question. I am looking at a unit that has mains and
SELV circuits that is encapsulated (potted). Am I correct in
assuming that creepage and clearance distances on the PCB for a
potted unit become the same as that for distance through
insulation,
Gert,
Agree with all that you wrote, but for those inclined to CE mark
without EC DoC, are just as likely to CE mark and create a false DoC. I
suppose that the DoC may weed out the very few who are CE marking through a
simple misunderstanding, but for those who are exercising, as you corre
My issue of concern is not fraud. I am assuming that an FCC label or CE
mark has been legally placed on a product. I have a customer who wants to
know that the equipment they purchase meets some EMC requirements. What the
requirement is is secondary to knowing (certifying) that the equipment met
This is very important information. Do the phrases:
"Tested To Comply With FCC Standards" or
"Assembled From Tested Components (Complete System Not Tested)"
appear right on the label affixed to the product or do you have to dig
through an owner's manual to find them?
> From: Cortland Richmond <
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Does anyone have details of draft standard IEC 61326-2-2 which specifically
refers to EMC requirements for measuring and monitoring equipment used in
low voltage distribution systems? I am particularly interested in
differences between this standard and IEC 61326-2-1 which makes no reference
to
OOPS Sorry Ken - On offense intended.
Other folks on this thread indicated that
there have been instances of CE marking
without appropriate testing occurring
and I was simply wondering what legal
ramifications there were in doing that...
Best Regards
Charles Grasso
Senior Compliance Engineer
Echos
On 04 Jan 2005 Ken Javor wrote
>> My specific need is to know whether an FCC sticker or label means there
is test data somewhere (not necessarily on file with the FCC) that
demonstrates compliance with the relevant limit. <<
Somewhere. Let's not forget that for ITE it is possible for a manufactu
In article <2EC9D5B6733DE64BB79CEB13AC874A1A0AC4AFD9@riv-
excha2.echostar.com>, Grasso, Charles
writes
>Mr. Javor indicated that: "I am entirely within my rights to affix a CE
>label on my product without any EMC testing whatsoever. Testing is just
>a means to determine compliance. If I have some
I am a fresh subscriber to this list, so I might duplicate information which
is already
well known - yet, just in case: on 3 February 2005, there will be an
information day
on the new EMCD, organised by the EC:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/revision/workshop.htm
I guess
All
I got these dates from the EMC UK 2004 meeting in Newbury.
If anyone else attended maybe they made similar notes?
http://www.emcuk.info/downloads/ThierryBrefort.doc
Unfortunately Thierry Brefort (thierry.bref...@cec.eu.int) of the European
Commission is on holiday until the 10th of January.
Da
I will ask advice from the DTi as to the interpretation and let you all
know their response.
Per my original msg I read it that on 20 July 2007 89/336 is revoked (so
no longer exists as a legal instrument). However there is a 2 year
transition for products already presumed compliant to 89/336 to c
Ken is legally right. Charles is right also, but
in a moral sense.
The basis of CE is trust.
The legal framework requires manufacturers to
accept liability, by signing up a legal document
that is called EC declaration of Compliance.
CE marking without EC Doc is an economical type of
fraud.
In Eu
Speaking only for the EMC directive (89/336 not the new)
The CE indicate that the equipment is complaint with the essential requirement
of the directive (do not disturb other equipment and work correctly without
influence from the EM environment). The legal and correct way to demonstrate
this is
Yes John,
The wording of the directive says nothing about
inventory, or old stock. It's the right of the
manufacturer to use the old directive
as a legal instrument until the end of the
transition period.
He just need to make up new papers though
when he continues selling after the 2009 date.
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