RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Bob Richards
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Jim Eichner wrote: >Amazing the spectrum you get when a really large 50kHz switching >fundamental >slams into the transient limiter. I remember reading a long time ago that when a transient limiter starts to clamp, it becomes a comb generator. I ran into that recently when

Re: EN60601-1 Susceptibility to magnetic fields from AC mains

2008-12-02 Thread macy
Pat, Thank you for that 'heads up'. 400 A/m is still around 1/2 mT, not the 2 mT I remember. Interesting reference will now appear in the 'design' documentation ...reference spec: 'internet' I'm just trying to make certain that when the documents are all here and we review my design versus sp

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread John McAuley
We also use a 140 kHz HP sharp cutoff filter as we have found 49 kHz switchers overloading our fully compliant Rohde and Schwarz receivers. The PSU manufacturers often use 49 kHz so that the third harmonic is below 150 kHz. I even know one that has a pot to adjust the switching frequency. I am gu

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Jim Eichner
As we often test immature prototypes with high emissions, I am quite concerned about out-of-band emissions-related effects, and consider a "real" preselector to be a mandatory part of any system we switch over to. The manufacturers may be able to tell me that they solve the same problem a differen

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread John McAuley
I notice Rohde and Schwarz have a new "low cost" ESL receiver. Unlike previous "pre compliance" receivers it appears to be compliant to CISPR 16 even for the 1 Hz QP prf. However, it has no pre selection. I note the recent comments about modern receivers having less sophisticated pre selection. Thi

EFT / B pulses applied on the protective earth conductor

2008-12-02 Thread Kbalasubramanian
Dear Experts, For the EFT / B testing for the noise is injected on the protective earth conductor which will be the return path. In our USB device, signal ground (- ve of 5 volts DC supply from the USB) and USB cable shield are same points. USB cable shield is connected to chassis of the PC

Re: EN60601-1 Susceptibility to magnetic fields from AC mains

2008-12-02 Thread pat.lawler
Hi Robert, 3 A/m is indeed the test level called out in IEC 60601-1-2, the standard used for general medical EMC testing. However, there are many other medical safety standards in the IEC 60601-2-* series which may have different test levels. My favorite is IEC 60601-2-24:1998, which calls ou

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Price, Edward
> -Original Message- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf > Of Jim Eichner > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:03 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: EMI Receiver > > Indeed, however while I too may be losing the will to live, I > still have the will to

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Jim Eichner
Indeed, however while I too may be losing the will to live, I still have the will to search out a new spectrum analyzer (note I learn from my experiences and have dropped the term-that-shall-remain-unspoken from this posting). So dare I repeat my question and that of Tim's original posting: does

Re: EN60601-1 Susceptibility to magnetic fields from AC mains

2008-12-02 Thread macy
Brodie, Thank you very much for your informative reply. 3 A/m translates to 3.8 microTeslas, correct? 10 A/m would then be 12.6 uT That is indeed benign. For some reason 2 mT had stuck in my mind and that would have been hard to deal with, requiring a block diagram change during prototype desig