RE: New Product Proposal

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Oscar et al, I looked at the video but I didn't see the required hazard marking 'Danger, laser lite, don't look into the laser with the remaining good eye'. Br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Consultant Tigard, ORe 97281 503/452-1201fo

Conducted emissions on DC power ports under EN61000-6-3

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
When referencing a Basic standard, it is often the case that product standards under-specify based on an incorrect assumption that the Basic standard says exactly what you need to do. I think I've found an example, but I'd welcome it if someone can show me where I missed something. I'd also like

To which guards does MD Annex 1, section 1.4 apply?

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I am working a project to adapt our equipment for the new Machinery Directive (2006/42/EC). Because of the revisions related to guards, I find myself facing a fundamental question for which I can find no direct address in the various guides available either for the new or the old directive. T

Re: Instructions on CD

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, The revised MD (2006/42/EC mandatory dec 30, 2009) says the machine must be "accompanied" by the instructions (ref Annex 1, 1.7.4). In the printed (pdf file) commentary on the current/old version of the MD from the Commission you can find this advice "A document must be physically transmi

Re: New Product Proposal

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Did you see the number of YouTube videos on this subject? YIKES! Here's the link to the first guy's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A69LTL7qb0Q -- Doug Nix, A.Sc.T. IEEE PSES Toronto Section, Ontario, Canada d...@ieee.org mobile (519) 729-5704 fax (519) 653-1318 Find me LinkedIn at htt

RE: New Product Proposal

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
My guess is that our government will have about as much success in controlling hobbyist lasers as it had in controlling CB radios. Outlaws and pirates are notorious for having a short attention span when reading the CFR. BTW, with a little shopping, you can get the parts for the mini-flashlight 1

RE: New Product Proposal

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Doesn't this dumb smuck realize he is liable under CFR 21: (sub J), 1040 for selling a class 3B laser that could toast some one's eye ??? I'm sure CDRH would love to see the Craigslist and the video. // Michael Taylor Loveland, CO From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of O

New Product Proposal

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
How scary is this? http://lexington.craigslist.org/ele/1018576822.html - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.iee

Re: Instructions on CD

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Ian, According to Danish authorities the EU commisions interpretation of Machinery Directive requires the instructions to be in printed form for machinery that is. Covering at least (minimum): safety, installation, specifications and first usage. Due to this we supply printed instructions fo

RE: Instructions on CD

2009-02-04 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Gordon, There is no easy answer to your question. Whether or not instructions must be printed depends on the product type, country of sale and applicable standards or directives. It also can depend on the type of instructions. Without knowing details of a product and its use, it is imp

Re: In vitro diagnostic equipment with external power supply

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Silvia, The external power supply should be tested together with the IVD device to ensure compliance of the combination to the emc, safety and other requirements depending on country of destination. For your information, the external power supply must also be certified in many countries. Refer

Re: GOST-R (Russia) Certification

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Craig, First you need to determine if your products are mandatory or voluntary. This can be detemined from the Harmonized Tariff Code (HS Code). You can send me the product data sheet and HS code at pmerguer...@us.tuv.com and I can check if your product is regulated in Russia or not. A UL/CSA 6

RE: GOST-R (Russia) Certification

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Craig, You may want to visit www.gost-r.info/ to get the info you may need. There are also a few reputable safety agencies with an international presence that should be able to assist you. There are 3 that immediately come to mind, but I’m sure there are others. IHTH.

RE: In vitro diagnostic equipment with external power supply

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Silvia Strictly, the power supply should also comply with EN 61010-1, but I expect that you will find that there are no practical differences between that and EN 60950-1 for the laboratory environment. I would suggest that whoever assesses your equipment should also include an assessment of the p

Re: In vitro diagnostic equipment with external power supply

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <7D5194F9B0004EAC91A4550B22CF7FBF@MAFALDA>, dated Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Silvia Diaz Monnier writes: >A in vitro diagnostic equipment will be tested according to EN >61010-2-101 to bear CE marking under IVD Directive. It has an external >power supply from another manufacturer that bears a

GOST-R (Russia) Certification

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good afternoon, I have been asked to look into obtaining GOST-R certification for products which would be considered ITE. Can anybody enlighten me on what this entails? I assume a UL/CSA 60950-1 report (no CB report for these products) would be considered acceptable as part of the GOST-R applic

In vitro diagnostic equipment with external power supply

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear all, can anyone help me with this doubt? A in vitro diagnostic equipment will be tested according to EN 61010-2-101 to bear CE marking under IVD Directive. It has an external power supply from another manufacturer that bears a CE Marking under LV Directive, tested by EN 60950-1. The extern

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2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All Is there a legal requirement to provide a paper copy of product instructions rather than supply these on CD? Ian Gordon The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and are provided solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the inte

Re: De-Rating Hookup Wire

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Wed, 4 Feb 2009, andrew.w...@ametek.co.uk writes: >where a cable is totally surrounded by thermal insulation having a >greater thermal conductivity than 0.04 Wm-1K-1, the following derating >factors are applied: > >length in insulation(mm)Derating factor >50

RE: De-Rating Hookup Wire

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Apologies if this is duplicated, but I don't think it made it through went I sent it yesterday. Tim, as you are based in the UK, this might be of some interest. According to 523.7 of BS 7671:2008 (commonly referred to as the "Wiring Regs")... where a cable is totally surrounded by therm

Re: FW: De-Rating Hookup Wire

2009-02-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The code is somewhat useful as a guide for wire ampacity but it does not apply inside products. It is meant to cover situations like wiring inside insulated walls, in buried conduit and many other applications including the complicated Neher-McGrath formula (see NEC 310.15). Inside your product th