RE: Electrical safety training courses (UK)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian Don't know of anything specific to 61010-1 but try these from ERA (now Cobham) Practical Implementation of a Product Safety Strategy http://shop.era.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=1325 I attended this when I was at ERA, and it gives you a good understanding of how to approach equipment safe

RE: Heavy package lift symbols

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John et al, The requirements for machinery include marking the mass/weight and the center of gravity on the machine and/or the packaging to enable proper handling during shipping and installation. Additional instructions or markings only make the process more fool-proof (but remember that foo

RE: CISPR Average Detector and RMS Average Detector

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
CISPR 22 uses, and has used, the Average detector for a number of years. It is used for conducted emissions testing and radiated emissions testing above 1 GHz. Please note that CISPR SC I WG3 has stated that the linear average detector is to be used, not the log average. There is no proposal to

RE: lables for Turkey - clarification

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Scott, et al, Thanx for asking what the MDoC is ... Sorry that I didn't make it clear in the previous post. MDoC = Manufacturer's Declaration of Conformity. I always include the term Manufacturer's in describing this declaration to differentiate it from other declarations. A d

Re: [PSES] Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <4b69a57a.3040...@gmail.com>, dated Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Mick Maytum on Gmail writes: >If you are complying with US Telcordia requirements such as >GR-1089-CORE, their cheesecloth is: The enquirer cited IEC 60950, and the definition form it. No threads. The other standards are obsessed

Re: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <842205.31552...@web113501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, dated Wed, 3 Feb 2010, peter merguerian writes: >Some laboratories get their stuff at their "local pharmacy" but each >time they go through an audit, they fail to show compliance with the >ISO17025 requirements regarding tracking of th

Re: Electrical safety training courses (UK)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Try the IET for training providers Regards, Chris - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-

Re: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Craig, You can contact the TUV Rheinland UK office and request to see where they purchase theirs. Let me know if you need a contact. If you run a test laboratory, please be advised that you need to document the source of your purchased consumables (manufacturer and type designation). Some labo

CEA 2009 A

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, Does anyone know of a lab, preferably in the US, that has the capability and experience to test to CEA 2009 A? Best Regards, Jody Leber SGS Consumer Testing Services Manager, Battery Test Certification Program SGS - U. S. Testing Company, Inc. 16870 West Bernardo Drive, Suite 250

Re: [PSES] Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John Woodgate wrote: In message <8783564a38f4f14d8a9f46ac2f296a343fa81...@sgbred210.corp.ncr.com> , dated Wed, 3 Feb 2010, "Petrie, Craig D" writes: In

Electrical safety training courses (UK)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear Group, Does anybody know of a UK based training course covering the electrical safety of products? In particular I am interested in IEC/EN 61010-1 and the EU Low Voltage directive? Many thanks in anticipation of your responses. Ian Unwin Servomex Group Limited, Jarvis Brook, Crowboro

Re: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <8783564a38f4f14d8a9f46ac2f296a343fa81...@sgbred210.corp.ncr.com>, dated Wed, 3 Feb 2010, "Petrie, Craig D" writes: >Incorrect number of threads per square inch I believe The spec you cited was: And the definition of the cheesecloth is: CHEESECLOTH: bleached cotton cloth of approxi

RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
As part of our ISO 17025 laboratory accreditation and as a requirement from one of our safety agency annual accreditations, we have had to control consumables such as the cheesecloth and tissue paper that we purchase for testing to IEC 60950-1 and its national derivative standards. We have been

RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Jody, Thank you for the helpful reply. Regards, Craig From: Leber, Jody (San Diego) [mailto:jody.le...@sgs.com] Sent: 03 February 2010 14:05 To: Petrie, Craig D; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1) Craig, Try t

RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I'm a home cheese maker and when it comes to cheesecloth, cheesecloth is not just cheesecloth. There are various numbered grades that reflect the dimensions of the threads. The stuff you get at hardware stores in the US is usually grade #10. However, it is rare that the packages say what grade the

RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Craig, Try this company http://www.productsafet.com/pages/main.html David J. Bisenius ED&D, Inc. / VP da...@productsafet.com Best Regards, Jody Leber SGS Consumer Testing Services Manager, Battery Test Certification Program SGS - U. S. Testing Company, Inc. 16870 West Bernard

RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Incorrect number of threads per square inch I believe From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 03 February 2010 13:38 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1) In message <8783564a38f4f14d8a9f46ac2f296a343fa81...@sgbred21

Re: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <8783564a38f4f14d8a9f46ac2f296a343fa81...@sgbred210.corp.ncr.com>, dated Wed, 3 Feb 2010, "Petrie, Craig D" writes: >the cheesecloth we last purchased (recommended on some time back on the >ieee mailing list)turned out to be non-compliant! In what way? The specification hardly seem

RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
We originally thought it was as simple as this but the cheesecloth we last purchased (recommended on some time back on the ieee mailing list)turned out to be non-compliant! I was preferably looking for a link to a Product Safety test equipment website which sold critical consumables to give us gr

RE: Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Cheesecloth can be purchased at any hardware store in their paint department or house wares. I buy mine at Ace Hardware which is a nationwide chain in the US. Tissue paper is available at any card or party store that carries gift wrapping paper year round. Both of these items are very com

Cheesecloth and Tissue Paper (60950-1)

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good morning all, Can you anyone tell me where I could purchase cheesecloth and tissue paper as per 60950-1 in the UK? The definition of the tissue paper in 60950-1 is: WRAPPING TISSUE: soft and strong, lightweight wrapping paper of grammage generally between 12 g/m2 and 30 g/m2, primarily in

CISPR Average Detector and RMS Average Detector

2010-02-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello Does anyone know when use of either of the above detectors will become mandatory for CISPR 22 or any other CISPR testing? Thanks in advance. David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Lod/Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-918-6113 Fax: +972-8-915-3101 Email: