[PSES] Fwd: RFTI announcement

2011-11-30 Thread Ken Wyatt
Hi All, I'm forwarding this from good friend, Gary Breed, past editor of RF Design Magazine and several others. He's starting a new one called RF Technology International. There's a brief description below, as well as a link to the Web site so you can sign up, if interested. Cheers, Ken

[PSES] UL assessment of plastics - DC vs AC

2011-11-30 Thread Brian Oconnell
Received a newsletter from UL. Said that they are looking into updating standards to account for DC di-electric withstand vs AC. I can understand that the physics of dc arcing and tracking could be different from ac, but why would the dc di-electric withstand be more onerous than ac? Perhaps they

Re: [PSES] UL assessment of plastics - DC vs AC

2011-11-30 Thread Ralph . McDiarmid
Possibly because standards provide an RMS level for AC dielectric and that never seems to be as high as the 'equivalent' DC dielectric test. Since dielectric strength test checks for sufficient clearances, the DC test would be tougher on solid insulation. Many standards say to us 1.41xAC

Re: [PSES] UL assessment of plastics - DC vs AC

2011-11-30 Thread Sundstrom, Michael
Brian, To be honest, who knows why UL does what they do? It appears that for years they have arranged test levels just to be different from IEC or whatever entity. Just my two cents, Michael Sundstrom OHD / TREQ Dallas Electronic Lab Analyst, EMC Lead 2170 French Settlement Rd, Suite B

[PSES] Quasi-peak

2011-11-30 Thread Amund Westin
I tried to find some information on how the Quasi-Peak detetor works. How long time does it measure at each frequency, why does a spread spectrum clock solve emission problem, etc Anybody who knows where I can find it? B.r Amund -

Re: [PSES] UL assessment of plastics - DC vs AC

2011-11-30 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Brian: Hmm. I wonder if UL knows what UL knows. Mr. Flore Chiang of UL's Taiwan office has given several papers at the PSES Symposia on the physics of clearance, creepage, and solid insulation breakdown. These are classic papers and should be studied by all product safety professionals.

Re: [PSES] UL assessment of plastics - DC vs AC

2011-11-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message CEBCB02AF4974380921E3EC70FF83CBC@RichardHPdv6, dated Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: Mr. Chiang has presented his papers to the IEC TC108 committee so that the committee can prepare insulation requirements that are in concert with the physics of

Re: [PSES] UL assessment of plastics - DC vs AC

2011-11-30 Thread Richard Nute
Hi John: Mr. Chiang drew his material from a number of sources, especially IEC sources, with attributions. Take a look at his bibliography. Best regards, Rich -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday,

[PSES] Book review: High Voltage and Electrical Insulation Engineering

2011-11-30 Thread Richard Nute
With regard to the discussion on d.c. versus a.c. for dielectric withstand testing, I thought I would share this book review. The book appears to cover the issues raised in the emc-pstc discussion. Mr. Shea, the reviewer, is with Eaton Corporation, Moon Township, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.

Re: [PSES] Quasi-peak

2011-11-30 Thread Price, Edward
Amund: Start by looking at Ed Bronaugh's paper: http://www.ieee.org/organizations/pubs/newsletters/emcs/summer01/pp.bron augh.htm I might get an argument on this, but it's my opinion that a spread-spectrum clock does not solve any emission problems, other than providing easier

Re: [PSES] Quasi-peak

2011-11-30 Thread Bill Owsley
The spread spectrum clock is about a 20 year old solution.  It is better described as a frequency modulated clock, FM! Depending in the irrational fears and myths that implementing engineers hold, it comes with all sorts of variations on a theme. But the basic principle that make the general

Re: [PSES] Quasi-peak

2011-11-30 Thread Ken Javor
Well, a few quibbles... Nothing charges faster than a peak detector, or holds the charge longer. That¹s what a peak detector does. The QP detectors output is proportional not to the peak of the signal, but to its peak and what fraction of the detector¹s time constant the signal is actually