Re: [PSES] power plugs

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Ted, Do they have an formal interpretation of it, otherwise, it would be a grace area and down to individual authority to judge if it complies the mains plug standard. You are quite right the direct plug-in power suppliers with Europlug configuration needs to comply with product standard

[PSES] REACH - a concentration of 0.1% (w/w).

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Xe
Recently, there is a discussion about the permissible concentration of 0.1% for SVHCs. If a component is smaller than 0.1% (w/w), the article is considered acceptable even though the component consists of 100% SVHC. I believe the REACH regulation is to regulate SVHCs not to be used in the

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-28 Thread Peter Merguerian
Rich and all I believe rating markings, energy efficiency ratings, EMC and Radio markings should be harmonized worldwide and governments/regulators should be involved to train consumers the meaning these markings. There is no reason why one country requires the ratings to be in traditional

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-28 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Peter: I believe rating markings, energy efficiency ratings, EMC and Radio markings should be harmonized worldwide and governments/regulators should be involved to train consumers the meaning these markings. As a consumer, why do I need to know the meaning of EMC and Radio markings?

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
In message CC6671B76F2D411A89EA3618F932A0C1@RichardHPdv6, dated Sat, 28 Jan 2012, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: The ratings could just as well be in the accompanying documents. ... which are thrown away, no, sorry, *recycled*, with the packaging. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-28 Thread Richard Nute
The ratings could just as well be in the accompanying documents. ... which are thrown away, no, sorry, *recycled*, with the packaging. Of course. But, as I said before, why do I need to know the ratings? Especially after the equipment is installed? Most manufacturers now provide e-copies

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
In message 7BAE23D8F53F4BC1AA15CD43A55E162B@RichardHPdv6, dated Sat, 28 Jan 2012, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: Of course. But, as I said before, why do I need to know the ratings? Especially after the equipment is installed? I agree entirely. Let's take the requirement out of

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-28 Thread John Shinn
The issue is that you said most, not all. John Shinn -Original Message- From: Richard Nute Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:23 PM To: 'John Woodgate' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings The ratings could just as well be in

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-28 Thread Doug Powell
This discussion has become interesting. Possibly ratings are common knowledge and possibly not. I'm sure everyone has an awareness of ratings, but do they have an understanding? And if they don't, do ratings serve any purpose for the end user? I suggest most people understand they must

[PSES] CE Authorization of Products Using RF for Aesthetic Skin Treatments

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Douglas
Sent to the list for the subscriber by Scott Douglas, EMC-PSTC List Admin. Hello, 1.One of our customers manufactures products for aesthetic skin treatments using RF for their functions. 2.The RF transmission is at non-ISM frequency bands. 3.Can such devices be approved under CISPR 11,