Hi Ted, Do they have an formal interpretation of it, otherwise, it would be a grace area and down to individual authority to judge if it complies the mains plug standard.
You are quite right the direct plug-in power suppliers with Europlug configuration needs to comply with product standard rather than the mains plug standard, ie. EN 60950. Regards, Scott On 27/1/12 3:07 AM, "Ted Eckert" <ted.eck...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > It¹s up to the individual regulatory authorities as to which approvals they > will accept or require. Having multiple approvals reduces the risk of a > problem in any one country. However, it¹s unlikely that you will find a plug > with approvals from all 27 members of the EU, the 4 EFTA members and the > multiple other countries that will accept the Europlug. I¹ve not had issues > with plugs that have had approvals from just a few of the Western European > countries. > > That being said, I¹ve seen plenty of direct plug-in power supplies with a > Europlug configuration that have nothing more than a CE mark and possibly an > approval from TÜV. > > > Ted Eckert > Compliance Engineer > Microsoft Corporation > ted.eck...@microsoft.com > > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my > employer. > > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:09 AM > To: Ted Eckert; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: power plugs > > Hi Ted, > > Thanks for info. Did you mean the Europlug needs to have all countries > approval or to have any one approval only before legally used in all European > countries. > > Scott > > > On 25/1/12 2:33 AM, "Ted Eckert" <ted.eck...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > The Europlug is commonly accepted across Europe with the exception of the > countries that use the BS 1363 plug. You will find that a Europlug complying > with EN 50075 and IEC 60884-1 can get approvals from all of the major European > approvers. Here is one example > <http://www.volexpowerproducts.com/index.php?option=com_ecatalog&task=plugdeta > ils&classid=1&countryid=1&plugid=178&Itemid=31> that has CEBEC, Demko, Fimko, > IMQ, KEMA KEUR, Nemko, ÖVE, Semko, ESTI and VDE. (I am referencing this one > vendor only because I know they clearly list the approvals on their web site. > There are plenty of other cord vendors with similar products.) > > The restrictions to the use of the Europlug are that the equipment must be > Class II and rated no more than 2.5 A. If you meet these requirements, you > will find that there are generally no regulatory barriers to including this > plug with your product. > > Ted Eckert > Compliance Engineer > Microsoft Corporation > 1 Microsoft Way > Redmond, WA 98052 > (425) 707-9205 > ted.eck...@microsoft.com <mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com> > > This email message may contain confidential and proprietary information. Any > unauthorized use is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original > message. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:12 AM > To: Ted Eckert; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: power plugs > > In Europe, Euro plug is widely used and accepted although each country may > have their own plug. As in EN standard, the product must be fitted with the > plug in the country where the product is sold. Is Euro plug legally correct > in those countries? I have learnt that it is allowed as the population of > some European countries is relatively small. Otherwise, the product may be > higher in price and they get less choice from the suppliers. Anyone knows > about this practice? > > Thanks and regards, > > Scott > > On 24/1/12 10:18 AM, "Ted Eckert" <ted.eck...@microsoft.com > <mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com> > wrote: > >> > Hi Brian, >> > >> > You will want the CEE 7/7 for most of Europe. It works in almost any >> > European outlet that doesn't accept one of the three that you >> > mentioned. The BS 1363 covers the UK, Ireland and Malta. The SEV 1011 >> > only covers Switzerland. Make sure your supplier conforms to the new >> > SEV 1011:2009 since Switzerland will require partially insulated pins >> > next year. The CEI 23-16 will work only in Italy. >> > >> > Ted Eckert >> > Compliance Engineer >> > Microsoft Corporation >> > ted.eck...@microsoft.com <mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com> >> > >> > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those >> > of my employer. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] >> <mailto:[mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]> >> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 3:43 PM >> > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> >> > Subject: power plugs >> > >> > Want to reduce number of plug types on pwr cords. Where I need ground >> > pin, was thinking of reducing types to CEI23-16, SEV1011, and BS1363A. >> > >> > Is this a stupid idea? 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