[PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Steve O'Steen
All, I would be interested in all opinions regarding the compliance requirements for a GPS receiver. Annex I, Item 4 excludes all sound and TV broadcast receivers from the RTTE Directive. Assuming the RTTE Directive applies, which one of the Product Specific Standards would be most

Re: [PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Charlie Blackham
Steve GPS receivers are covered by RTTE Directive as they are non-broadcast receive only equipment - have a look at RTTE Compliance Association Guidance Note on this: http://www.rtteca.com/TGN16.pdf The most suitable standards are EN 301 489-3 for EMC and EN 300 440-2 for RF Spectrum.

Re: [PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Steve, It's not a broadcast receiver and therefore the RTTE Directive does apply. I've seen people use all sorts of standards in the past but the basic requirement is really going to be to check the receiver emissions (article 3.2 of the Directive) and also check it has good EMC

Re: [PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Steve O'Steen
All, Thanks for the replies which have been consistent across the board recommending EN 301 489-3 for the EMC portion. This is what I was leaning toward as well, even without the knowledge of TGN16 but based mostly on the scopes of all parts in the EN 301 489 series of standards. As an option

Re: [PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Steve O'Steen
Michael, After reviewing the TGN16 a little closer, I noticed the statement below: This Guidance applies to receive-only equipment. Where GPS/GNSS or other receivers are combined with other radio equipment, different principles may apply. So, back to my question regarding

[PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Xe
I notice that some compliance reports of RTTE are reviewed by a notified body while some are issued by an accredited laboratory only. Can someone advise if they have different purposes or requirements. Thanks and regards, Scott -

Re: [PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
Hi Steve, If it's a GPS Receiver that is also located with (for example) a Bluetooth transmitter, then you could still assess the Bluetooth transmitter to EN 300 328 and EN 301 489-17, then the GPS receiver to EN 300 440 and EN 301 489-3. The comment in TGN 16 comes from the type of GPS

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
If the tests are all done to a harmonised standard (standard fully applied, and passes), then there's no need to go to a Notified Body. (You can, if you wish to, but there's no need to) If you can't or don't fully apply a harmonised standard, then you must go to a Notified Body for their

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott Also - as a manufacturer, there is nothing to stop you performing your own tests - there is no mandatory requirement to use an accredited lab. If you're not using an accredited Lab and need a Notified Body opinion - talk to them first about how you will demonstrate suitable competence

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Brian Oconnell
The original 2010 proposals were to include the RTTE in the NLF as a re-cast directive. I cannot find any recent activity on this. Any information if NLF will affect acceptance of these self-generated reports? Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On

[PSES] Consumer Equipment CS

2012-02-28 Thread Ed Price
I have a personal question about the ruggedness of consumer entertainment equipment to powerline distortion, and I would like to hear any thoughts you might have about this. The potential victims are 120 VAC powered televisions, radios, disk players, computers, etc. The environment is a

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Amund. No, there's no requirement for a Notified Body to be associated with a test laboratory. Presently, there's no requirement for a Notified Body to be accredited under the RTTE Directive.. Although each nation typically does have an accreditation requirement before submitting

Re: [PSES] Consumer Equipment CS

2012-02-28 Thread Cortland Richmond
No we can't. It's not a modified SINE wave; that's just salesmanship, Ed. It's more like 50% duty cycle bipolar pulses. The far from technical Mr. Barney (AKA Google[tm]) leads me to http://www.rvtechlibrary.com/electrical/sinewave.htm: quote: ... Desktop computers are not in the same

[PSES] SV: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Amund Westin
My input on this issue: . Notified Body = Appointed by authorities for testing / certification according to an EU directive . Accredited laboratory = Fulfil ISO/IEC 17025 Laboratory Accreditation (criteria for laboratories to demonstrate the technical competence to carry out

Re: [PSES] Consumer Equipment CS

2012-02-28 Thread Don_Borowski
Seems to me that it depends on the type of power supply in the equipment. Just about everything these days uses a switching power supply. Given that, the next question is whether it is harmonic/power factor corrected or not. If not, and the input to the power supply is simply a bridge

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Nick Williams
On 28 Feb 2012, at 17:11, Amund Westin wrote: My input on this issue: · Notified Body = Appointed by authorities for testing / certification according to an EU directive · Accredited laboratory = Fulfil ISO/IEC 17025 Laboratory Accreditation (criteria for laboratories

[PSES] Japanese Consultant

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Loerzer
Hi, for a regulatory compliance project we are looking for a Japanese Consultant (native speaker) which is familiar with Japanese ESH/HSE requirements and regulatory machine safety requirements. You can contact me offline. Best regards Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Thomas Cokenias
Hi Scott, Not sure if this answers your question, but you MUST use a Notified Body if you test to a standard that has not been harmonized as evidenced by being published in the Official Journal of the EU. If you do test to a standard that is indeed harmonized and published in the OJ, then

Re: [PSES] German Product Safety Act (ProdSG) - Label requirement

2012-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
In message 72b8947772cf0948adaa9853631663fb6477498...@pbi-namsg-02.mgdpbi.global.pv t, dated Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Jim Hulbert jim.hulb...@pb.com writes: Under the new German Product Safety Act (ProdSG), as of Dec 2011 consumer products are required to have a label with the name and address of

Re: [PSES] German Product Safety Act (ProdSG) - Label requirement

2012-02-28 Thread Kim, Ben
What if it conflicts with upcoming LVD Directive ? The EU LVD/EMC directives are currently under revision as part of alignment with new NLF Directive, and placing those importer contact information in a document will be one of the allowed options once the proposal is passed by EU Council

Re: [PSES] German Product Safety Act (ProdSG) - Label requirement

2012-02-28 Thread IBM Ken
Are there requirements on the size of the label and if it must be visible on the outside of the product? Can it be behind an access door? On 2/28/12, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message 72b8947772cf0948adaa9853631663fb6477498...@pbi-namsg-02.mgdpbi.global.pv t, dated Tue, 28

Re: [PSES] German Product Safety Act (ProdSG) - Label requirement

2012-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
In message f63ea15cdb2e2540a78bdc6ed0a757391a65c...@sacmvexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com, dated Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Kim, Ben ben@netapp.com writes: What if it conflicts with upcoming LVD Directive ? Then it applies only in Germany to German-made products. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try