Re: [PSES] Question about power line harmonics testing

2012-10-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message 4b64c938bf60be46b83b25988b0a7d7407c66...@sushdc8000.td.teradata.com, dated Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Knighten, Jim L jim.knigh...@teradata.com writes: 2) Comply with the absolute limits given in IEC 61000-3-2:2011, Table 1, The published document differs from the approved draft in that

[PSES] Part of CE marking?

2012-10-11 Thread amund
Have to check out this claim: RoHS, REACH and WEEE are not included in the CE mark regime. That's because they are not New approach directives. Corrcet? #Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

Re: [PSES] Part of CE marking?

2012-10-11 Thread John Cotman
Not quite answering the question, but RoHS is included in CE marking from Jan 2013, the recast directive , so called RoHS 2. John C -Original Message- From: amund [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: 11 October 2012 12:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Part of CE

Re: [PSES] Part of CE marking?

2012-10-11 Thread Carpentier Kristiaan
Indeed, except RoHS2 that will be included in the NLF, thus part of CE marking and will be in force starting from Jan. 2013 replacing RoHS. Best regards,  Kris Carpentier -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of amund Sent: donderdag 11 oktober

[PSES] AAMI version of 60601-1 3rd ed - requirement for SI Units

2012-10-11 Thread Carl Newton
Group, Does anyone have experience with the AAMI version of 60601-1, 3rd edition and clause 7.4.3? This clause requires that measurement parameters be in SI units. I'm working on a therapeutic exercise device which requires patients to enter weight as a step in the setup process. American

Re: [PSES] AAMI version of 60601-1 3rd ed - requirement for SI Units

2012-10-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message canckvwje-kae8vnbgtf3ddgi-y8xfma-ubwnqtzxa9e0pyv...@mail.gmail.com, dated Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Carl Newton emcl...@gmail.com writes: American patients will be befuddled if required to enter kg. So would many British patients! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk The

[PSES] HAR cable designation question

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Tarver
Hello from overcast Northern California. I recently purchased a copy of HD 361 to decode HAR cable designations. An example is: H05GG-F H = harmonized cable 05 = 300/500 V G = ethylene vinyl acetate conductor insulation G = ethylene vinyl acetate jacket F = flexible conductors (Class 5) My

[PSES] Shielding materials

2012-10-11 Thread Derek Walton
HI Folks, I'm looking for a source of either very fine braid, or even foil that I can use to make up a set of shielded cables. The typical braid has much too poor optical coverage. I'm envisaging most likely using 2 layers. cabels are less than 1/2 diameter. Suggestions appreciated.

Re: [PSES] HAR cable designation question

2012-10-11 Thread Aldous, Scott
Hi Peter, Regarding the voltage ratings, according to a handwritten note I made on a printout from Oflex on my cube wall, the first number refers to the conductor to ground voltage rating and the second number refers to the conductor to conductor voltage rating for multiconductor cable. I

Re: [PSES] HAR cable designation question

2012-10-11 Thread Aldous, Scott
I did find a reference to this, though not from an official source: http://www.muellergroup.net/faq.html#10 Scott Aldous Compliance Engineer AE Solar Energy   +1.970.492.2065 Direct   +1.970.407.5872 Fax   +1.541.312.3832 Main scott.ald...@aei.com 1625 Sharp Point Drive Fort Collins, CO 80525

Re: [PSES] HAR cable designation question

2012-10-11 Thread Ted Eckert
Scott is correct that the first number is the conductor to ground rating and the second is the conductor to conductor rating. Here is the information on the voltage rating from Lapp Group.

Re: [PSES] HAR cable designation question

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Tarver
Thank you, Aldous. That's almost logical. That type of information really ought to be in HD 361, but it isn't. There is a Table 4 in HD 361 that shows how to read cable designations and confirms the inside to outside arrangement of the cable properties, but nothing on reading the voltage.

Re: [PSES] HAR cable designation question

2012-10-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message 28d487da62d23a9968517e8f0003d...@mail.gmail.com, dated Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: Does the same inside to outside approach also apply to the voltage rating, as I expect that it does? Isn't that specified in HD 361? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only.

Re: [PSES] Shielding materials

2012-10-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message 8cf75dc01b80d7b-14cc-23...@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com, dated Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Derek Walton lfresea...@aol.com writes: I'm looking for a source of either very fine braid, or even foil that I can use to make up a set of shielded cables. The typical braid has much too poor

Re: [PSES] What's the deal with Wire Nuts?

2012-10-11 Thread Ted Eckert
I know I'm wading into a sea of troubles by commenting, but here is my opinion. (And yes, it is just an opinion.) Twist-on wire connectors have become ubiquitous in North America. (I believe that Wire Nut is a registered trademark of one of the suppliers.) They end up in everybody's toolbox

Re: [PSES] AAMI version of 60601-1 3rd ed - requirement for SI Units

2012-10-11 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
Carl, What if it is addressed in your RMF? Considering it is ANSI/AAMI instead of IEC/EN, and the intended market, I would think this would be an area you could use the RMF and address it that way. If needed you could possible address this using Clause 4.5 (although, this might be a bit of a

Re: [PSES] Light curtains

2012-10-11 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
Derek, You might check EN 61508 and whatever ISO standard is referenced for Risk Assessment. My guess is it will depend on the risk and the severity of that risk that you are trying to avoid. Regards, Josh Joshua Wiseman Taylor Company A division of Carrier Commercial Refrigeration, Inc

Re: [PSES] What's the deal with Wire Nuts?

2012-10-11 Thread Kaz Gawrzyjal
Ferrules might present an equally interesting topic for discussion. Kaz Gawrzyjal -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ted Eckert Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:07 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: What's the deal with Wire

Re: [PSES] Shielding materials

2012-10-11 Thread Chuck McDowell
You might try Tech Flex. http://www.techflex.com/land_metal.asp Chuck McDowell Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Derek Walton Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:27 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Shielding materials HI Folks, I'm

Re: [PSES] AAMI version of 60601-1 3rd ed - requirement for SI Units

2012-10-11 Thread Momcilovic, Nick (GE Healthcare)
The data must be able to be displayed in SI units but it does not prohibit the equipment to display other units of measure. At least that is my understanding of this requirement. Regards, Nick Momcilovic From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carl Newton Sent:

Re: [PSES] Shielding materials

2012-10-11 Thread Ken Javor
Here¹s a lightweight approach. Haven¹t looked at how fine the braid wire is, but maybe this will work for you. http://www.araconfiber.com/WhyARACON.html Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Derek Walton lfresea...@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:27:06 -0400 (EDT) To: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Light curtains

2012-10-11 Thread John Allen
You could also take a look at EN 1088:1995+A2:2008 Safety of machinery - Interlocking devices associated with guards - Principles for design and selection (Harmonised) and EN1050 - the basic machinery risk assessment standard (not a lot of use, but it might help) This might also help:

Re: [PSES] What's the deal with Wire Nuts?

2012-10-11 Thread Bender, Curtis
Ted, If the rewiring or wire splicing is done on a product wouldn't this simply be a foreseeable misuse of the product? Product modifications are usually stated as a no-no in the user manual and there are many other methods to misuse a product including the use of wire nuts, ferrules,

Re: [PSES] What's the deal with Wire Nuts?

2012-10-11 Thread Ted Eckert
I've worked with plenty of products where wire nuts were the intended connection method. I've purchased fluorescent light fixtures that include wire nuts in the package for the installer to use. The wire nuts are not necessarily used for product modifications; they can be for their intended