[PSES] I am out of the office - until 10/23/2012

2012-11-21 Thread Rene Charton/Twn/TUV
I will be out of the office starting 11/22/2012 and will not return until 11/23/2012. I will have very limited access to my e-mail, therefore please contact my deputy: arvin...@twn.tuv.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Sa

Re: [PSES] IEC 60320 C13/C14 Connector 10A vs 15A

2012-11-21 Thread John Woodgate
In message <64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0262A557@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local>, dated Wed, 21 Nov 2012, "Kunde, Brian" writes: So what a part is rated and how it is protected is often not clear to me. I suggest you look at a different approach. What matter is whether there is a safety i

Re: [PSES] IEC 60320 C13/C14 Connector 10A vs 15A

2012-11-21 Thread Kunde, Brian
I really appreciate everyone who commented on this topic. I should have mentioned that our products are generally not certified by a national authority so they are subject to Field Inspections where the inspecting engineer doesn't always have the ability to perform fault testing on site. So gen

Re: [PSES] IEC 60320 C13/C14 Connector 10A vs 15A

2012-11-21 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Brian, Whether or not there is a requirements for supplementary overcurrent protection depends on the product classification and applicable safety standard. In general, supplementary overcurrent protection is not required. For example, in IEC 60950-1, the product still needs to pass abnor

Re: [PSES] Fast transients - burst - suppression components

2012-11-21 Thread Anthony Thomson
Consider Tranzobs (trade-name) between the signal lines and a good solid ground (pcb or metalwork). They are exceptionally fast acting avalanche diode transient suppressors. If you do, keep interconnections as short as possible to minimise path inductance. http://www.vishay.com/diodes/protection

Re: [PSES] Fischer CC EM Clamp F-203I-32mm

2012-11-21 Thread Ken Javor
Joe Fischer used to be a part of the CISPR committees writing the standards. It is unlikely at best that FCC would design the equipment incorrectly. Usually their equipment is designed per the CISPR drawings. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Wendy Nya Reply-To: Wendy Nya Date: Tue, 20

Re: [PSES] Fischer CC EM Clamp F-203I-32mm

2012-11-21 Thread Derek Walton
HI folks, I guess I finally had to weigh in on this one. We need to keep a few things in mind here: 1) The use of the EM Clamp is for when a CDN cannot be used, that doesn't mean when you don't own one. It means when it's impractical. 2) The clamp construction, described in one of the CISP

Re: [PSES] Fast transients - burst - suppression components

2012-11-21 Thread Kunde, Brian
Some good suggestions. Can you use shielded cable and terminate the shield well on both ends? I don't know what your devices are or what the interface is or what it does but generally this test has a pass/fail criteria B, so if it can return the I/O to normal operation after the test then that

Re: [PSES] Fast transients - burst - suppression components

2012-11-21 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Small series R or alternate L (or CM-coil) and a suitable C to GND High off filter configured at 5 MHz approx. Not too low F (read: high inductance) as interwinding capacitance will spoil the effect. The essential factor here is if the ground plane is continuous, contains no slots (if PCB

[PSES] Fast transients - burst - suppression components

2012-11-21 Thread Amund Westin
When doing ±1kV burst (via capacitive coupling clamp) onto an unshielded signal cable, the EUT gets problems (fail operation). The communication signals on the cable are rather slow, below 1MHz. We are planning to make a burst filter and we have ground / chassis pins close by. Any recommen