Re: [PSES] EN 55035/CISPR35

2015-12-22 Thread Ghery S. Pettit
CISPR 35 has not been published. The FDIS for CISPR 35 is presently out for translation into French. Once that happens it will go out for vote by the national committees. With luck it will pass this time. The Koreans jumped the gun and based KN 35 on a version that was not accepted. Best of

[PSES] EN 55035/CISPR35

2015-12-22 Thread itl-emc user group
Hello All I received a notice that starting in 2016, Korea will only accept test reports to KN32 and KN35. I assume that these are the equivalents of CISPR 32/EN 55032 and CISPR 35/EN55035. >From searching on the internet, I have not been able to find CISPR 35/EN >55035 in final form. Has CISPR

Re: [PSES] Relays and Contactors

2015-12-22 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
I assume the relay would have to meet double/reinforced open contact spacing and dielectric strength in this application. Correct? Sounds right We are having a hard time finding a relay that specifies an open contact dielectric strength for double/reinforced (3000Vac or 4200Vdc). How about t

Re: [PSES] Relays and Contactors

2015-12-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
Scott, The relay we are looking to use is an Omron G7L series. It has a mechanical life expectancy of 5 million operations and 100,000 electrical operations. We also use a SSR for control so the safety relay is never opened or closed while under load. The Other Brian -Original Message

Re: [PSES] Relays and Contactors

2015-12-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
Dave, We don't have to worry about burns. This is an oven and proper tools and PPE must be used or worn. The hazard of concern is with shock. The heating elements cannot be guarded or insulated without affecting function. The only practical way is to interlock the door and provide a proper Dis

Re: [PSES] Relays and Contactors

2015-12-22 Thread Scott
This issue is half insulation/ accessibilty and reliability. Since you are going to use the relay in a safety interlock circuit it needs to be certified for a specific number of actuations. The failure mode for a relay is closed, welded, and in your avg everyday commercial model this occurs in

Re: [PSES] Relays and Contactors

2015-12-22 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Are you trying to protect against shock hazard or burn hazard or both? Can you eliminate the shock hazard with additional insulation or localized guarding? If the user potentially has direct access to hazardous voltages you probably have a very high PLr and need redundant contactors. How

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

2015-12-22 Thread John Allen
Charlie That would be my reaction as well - which is why I would expect AV specialists to question its application to their kit, and why the 62368-1 Scope needs clarification. John Allen From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 22 December 2015 17:58 To: John

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

2015-12-22 Thread Charlie Blackham
I think EN 60905-22 is overkill for occasional use outdoors. 1 Scope 1.1 Equipment covered This part of IEC 60950 applies to information technology equipment intended to be installed in an OUTDOOR LOCATION. The requirements for OUTDOOR EQUIPMENT also apply, where relevant, to empty OUTDOOR ENCL

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

2015-12-22 Thread John Allen
Good evening I had the same idea as Ken re 60950-22 - and then got to thinking about 62368-1 which is replacing both 60065 & 60950, and the likelihood of a "Part XX" to that standard.? Did a quick search on "62368 outdoor equipment" and no "Part XX" was flagged up, but amongst the results

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

2015-12-22 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Scott, There are many products that are commonly used outdoors yet are not tested to any specific standard for outdoor use. Cell phones and tablet computers are just two examples of such devices. It is not uncommon for the manufacturer to specify the ingress protection (IP) rating under I

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

2015-12-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Ken, Thanks for your suggestion on 60950-22. I did not know or have this standard but had some search on internet and note that the standard is for equipment intended for outdoors. I doubt it is too tough for my said equipment. That is reason why I believe there may be different levels fo

[PSES] Relays and Contactors

2015-12-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
We have an application where during normal operation the user has access to a 30 amp heating element driven by AC mains. We will interlock a door which will drive a relay or contactor which will open both sides of the AC mains going to the heating element to make it safe. I assume the relay wou

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

2015-12-22 Thread IBM Ken
Hi Scott, I don't have any experience in this area but have you looked at 60950-22? On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Scott Xe wrote: > It is my first time to test an audio product for outdoor use. The product > is powered by rechargeable lithium batteries and primarily used indoors but > can b

[PSES] Level VI EPS

2015-12-22 Thread Scott Douglas
Merry Christmas to all, We are looking for a Level VI EPS that is 120 V~ input and 16 V~, 1.0 A output. We have two, one is Level V with 3.5 mm 2 contact pin plug. The other is Level IV with the output cable stripped and tinned. Has anyone had any luck finding Level VI efficient AC-AC wall mo

[PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

2015-12-22 Thread Scott Xe
It is my first time to test an audio product for outdoor use. The product is powered by rechargeable lithium batteries and primarily used indoors but can be used occasionally for outdoor picnics and/or parties. Traditionally, we use EN 60065 for safety evaluation. Is there any specific safety