Re: [PSES] Placing on the Market

2016-12-07 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Title: Re: [PSES] EN 302 195 Distance Conversion Factor Note that for the RoHS July 2019 items that come into scope, products  in distribution in the EU but not yet sold become illegal to sell. This provision created a lot of discussion but no regulatory relief a couple of years ago. Sent from

Re: [PSES] Placing on the Market

2016-12-07 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Title: Re: [PSES] EN 302 195 Distance Conversion Factor Last time I had this question, the current Blue Guide gave me a pretty definitive answer. Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian KundeTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: December

Re: [PSES] EN 302 195 Distance Conversion Factor

2016-12-07 Thread John Woodgate
There are two aspects to this: 1. What will satisfy the EU authorities? 2. What is the best that electrical science can do in this notoriously complex situation? I addressed the first question. It's obvious that if no emission can be detected at 3 m, the product passes the requirements, but

Re: [PSES] EN 302 195 Distance Conversion Factor

2016-12-07 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
I've kept the 6 volume set of the EMC Handbook, by Donald White Consultants, for many years. It's a good reference. Some standards tell you what to do for correction at different measurements distances. If 3 metres still showed no signal, I'd use amplification and then carefully check for

Re: [PSES] Placing on the Market

2016-12-07 Thread John Woodgate
If your 'affiliate' is not a subsidiary company and has other suppliers, placing on the market occurs at your stage 3. If, however, the 'affiliate' is you in disguise, it occurs at your stage 5. I've never seen it stated explicitly in these terms, but I think the product is 'placed on the

[PSES] Placing on the Market

2016-12-07 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings Experts. I'm really really really sorry to ask this question, but I must know without a doubt of how the EU law interprets "Placing on the Market". Yes, I have read many documents, websites, and guides. I thought I had a good understanding of this but I am not confident to the point

Re: [PSES] EN 302 195 Distance Conversion Factor

2016-12-07 Thread Ken Javor
Re Don White. That math was for an electrically short dipole: short relative to wavelength, and short relative to the separation between it and the point of observation. Neither of these criteria are obtained at one meter, and therefore the math is not useful. What I just said is what Gert said