Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Edward Price
When I built a solar system for my RV about 7 years ago, I used traditional 30 VDC panels supplying a remote switching power supply that does the 30 VDC to 12 VDC conversion. If I were to test that system for EMI, then yes, I could supply 30 VDC conventionally from any clean DC source. But,

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Ken Javor
It¹s likely way more complex in space than a simple panel on earth generating something like 12 Vdc, but in space they connect various strings in parallel and series and shift the connections based on the load and impinging light as a spacecraft orbits the earth. Plus, in some cases a control

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread DEREK WALTON
Hi All, I totally agree with Ken, folks are totally trying to over think this. Just shine incandescents so the inventor can run. The panel will not generate any noise. Cheers, Derek Walton. > On Feb 14, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Ken Javor wrote: > > OK, but why? It’s an EMI test, not a test of

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Ken Javor
OK, but why? It¹s an EMI test, not a test of solar array performance. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Edward Price Reply-To: Edward Price Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 21:36:53 + To: Conversation: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel Subject: Re: [PSES] Testing a product

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Edward Price
Ken: I got the impression from the original question that the solar panel was integrated with an inverter. That means that there might be coupling interactions between the inverter circuitry and the solar panel array conductors and/or the solar panel support structure. Indeed, the whole solar

[PSES] New Technical; Tidbit published

2019-02-14 Thread doug emcesd.com
Hi Everyone, I am starting to add new Technical Tidbit articles to my website again. The last one was 2016, but just posted another one with lots to come in the coming months. An upcoming way will cover the best way to measure signal corruption in the face of external interference. If you are

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
"Retirement is not that far off. " It can never be too close either:) or not close enough:) Yuck Yuck. -Dave From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 3:29 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Ted Eckert
My opinion is that the problem isn't companies that don't follow the current regulations. It's because some companies know how to use the current regulations all too well. Some companies operate as electronic storefronts for many of the products found through their site. The host company is not

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
I've never understood why some people think that the solution to people not following the rules can be solved by creating more rules. Studies have shown the the vast majority of non-compliances are lack of understanding low risk rules and not anything that would really hurt someone. They put

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Lauren Crane
Yes, John, it looks like a new type of economic actor is defined to account for Amazon type companies, but it also constrains everyone else. One of the interesting points is a requirement to indicated the REA (responsible economic actor) on the product (or in documents etc...). The REA has to

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Chuck August-McDowell
Article 14 is interesting. Powers and duties of market surveillance authorities 3. The powers conferred on market surveillance authorities under paragraph 1 shall include the following powers as a minimum: (o) powers to carry out, without prior announcement, on-site inspections and physical

[PSES] Open Position at our RTP Lab

2019-02-14 Thread Mac Elliott
Hi colleagues,  We currently have a position open for a RF Test Engineer at our RTP lab.  If any interest, here is the link to the Linked In page.  https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/rf-test-engineer-at-t%C3%BCv-s%C3%BCd-1115381898/ Thanks and have a great day! Mac Elliott -

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread John Woodgate
It looks like a move to regulate Amazon and similar sources. At present, in the UK at least, there is little surveillance of goods ordered in small quantities by members of the public, with the exception of medication and some medical products. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Grasso, Charles
I am disappointed that no labs have responded! We have a very bright halogen lamp which we will use. Hopefully we don't melt the plastic!! Thanks! Charles Grasso W: 303-706-5467 From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 9:54 AM To:

Re: [PSES] 95055-1 Technical Data [General Use]

2019-02-14 Thread Ken Javor
Can you confirm that is a Stoddart or Eaton/Ailtech part number? Sounds like it. I have old catalogs for both those companies. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: "Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)" Reply-To: "Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)" Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 09:16:01 + To:

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Ken Javor
I am well aware that an incandescent light bulb doesn¹t emit the same spectral signature as received from the sun. But the test is not about the detailed performance of the solar panel, but only that the device-under-test runs off electricity generated by the solar panel. Unless the EMI signature

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Grasso, Charles
Using our very own sun inside the chamber is the way to go apparently - or emulate the current charge/discharge cycle. Thanks! Charles Grasso W: 303-706-5467 From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:36 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread Scott Aldous
Hi Ken, A 500W incandescent light will give you some voltage/current from your solar panel, but it won't be representative of actual sunlight if this is important to your test. The spectrum (or energy) for artificial light will not be the same as the spectrum of sunlight. UL 1703 makes reference

Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel

2019-02-14 Thread John Woodgate
CISPR 11:2015 CSV covers radiation. IEC 62920:2017  is also needed. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-02-14 03:36, Ken Javor wrote: Re: [PSES] Testing a product with that uses a solar panel Waited to see if

[PSES] 95055-1 Technical Data [General Use]

2019-02-14 Thread Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)
Hi all, Can anyone help? Looking for technical data on a 95055-1 magnetic Loop. Regards Andy Andrew Price Land & Naval Defence Electronics Division Prinicpal Environmental Engineer (EMC) Leonardo MW Ltd Sigma House, Christopher