Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Ralph: Some say 0th fault to mean it is expected to fail, therefore you fault it, before applying a single-fault. Never heard of this process. And never used this process. And have never seen it in a safety standard. If bonding impedance test passes, then the circuit is

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
with our equipment. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: Rodney Davis [mailto:rodney.da...@mitel.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 3:36 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Insulation testing Yes in Canada and USA the line current is deemed to be 20 amps theref

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Rodney Davis
O'Connell Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:00 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Insulation testing Correct –> CSA No. 0.4 specifies 40A test level. Brian From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:52 AM

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread John_e_allen
7;Connell wrote >Correct –> CSA No. 0.4 specifies 40A test level. > >Brian > > >From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - >[mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] >Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:52 AM >To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >Subject: Re: [PSES] Insu

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Binayak Marahatta
rman - Original Message - To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 03/03/2016 01:52 PM Subject:Re: [PSES] Insulation testing I've always thought the Canada requirement was 40 amps for 2 minutes. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -- Origina

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
" To: , , Date: 03/03/2016 11:28 AM Subject: RE: [PSES] Insulation testing Hi Ralph: It seems that the standards are treating functional ground connections (those that do not pass a bonding impedance test) as a 0th fault, not a single fault. For the bonding impedance test (fau

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Brian O'Connell
Correct –> CSA No. 0.4 specifies 40A test level. Brian From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:52 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Insulation testing I've always thought the Canada require

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
I've always thought the Canada requirement was 40 amps for 2 minutes. Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Richard NuteTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: March 3, 2016 at 1:37 PMSubject: Re: [PSES] Insulation testing  Hi Ralph:  It

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Ralph: It seems that the standards are treating functional ground connections (those that do not pass a bonding impedance test) as a 0th fault, not a single fault. For the bonding impedance test (fault current), what would be the test current? Would it be twice the rating of t

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
resending (1st one bounced) From: Ralph McDiarmid/Canada/Schneider To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 02/25/2016 08:51 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Insulation testing It seems that the standards are treating functional ground connections (those that do not pass a bonding impedance test) as a

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-02-26 Thread Richard Nute
Hi John: How do you demonstrate the dielectric strength between mains and user accessible circuits when the accessible circuits are referenced to chassis? Disconnect the ground, and connect the low end of the hi-pot tester to the user-accessible part (circuit). Don't touch the cha

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-02-25 Thread Scott Aldous
user circuits are referenced to earth ground. > > > > Ted Eckert > > Compliance Engineer > > Microsoft Corporation > > ted.eck...@microsoft.com > > > > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of > my employer. > > > >

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-02-25 Thread Ted Eckert
ORG Subject: [PSES] Insulation testing Gentlemen, How do you demonstrate the dielectric strength between mains and user accessible circuits when the accessible circuits are referenced to chassis? If you apply the test voltage for reinforced insulation to the mains circuits and it breaks down

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-02-25 Thread Rodney Davis
Are you testing just line/neutral. To ground? From: Harrington, John Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:45 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Harrington, John Subject: [PSES] Insulation testing Gentlemen, How do you demonstrate the dielectric strength between mains and user

[PSES] Insulation testing

2016-02-25 Thread Harrington, John
Gentlemen, How do you demonstrate the dielectric strength between mains and user accessible circuits when the accessible circuits are referenced to chassis? If you apply the test voltage for reinforced insulation to the mains circuits and it breaks down to chassis because there is (as required)

Re: "Insulation" testing

2000-07-31 Thread Rich Nute
The subject answers your question about the constraints on such testing: Equipment insulation testing. For the purposes of this discussion, there are two applications (or kinds) of insulation: 1) Insulation between the poles of a circuit or the insulation within a circuit (also

"Insulation" testing

2000-07-31 Thread k3row
Can anyone help resolve my confusion over the issue of equipment insulation testing and the constraints on such testing associated with components that might get damaged by such tests. More specifically, there are various safety standards that require (say) a high voltage test of (say) 1000v rms