Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-26 Thread Peter Tarver
:* McDiarmid, Ralph [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 15:00 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? NEC art 210.4 and 210.5 seem to allow it and the CEC here in Canada certainly allows it. For large residential highrises

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-22 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
| CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering From: Don Gies <don.g...@alcatel-lucent.com> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 10/22/2015 03:09 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Peter, It doesn’t sound right. Somebody may be describing a 120/240 V, 3-Wire system, and mixing

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-22 Thread Ted Eckert
o: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? I believe NFPA 70 specifies 120/240V for all residential household voltages. -Dave From: McDiarmid, Ralph [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:19 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-22 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
chneider-electric.com" <ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com>, "EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>, Date: 10/22/2015 02:32 PM Subject: RE: [PSES] 208 split-phase? I believe NFPA 70 specifies 120/240V for all residential household voltages. -Da

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-22 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
I believe NFPA 70 specifies 120/240V for all residential household voltages. -Dave From: McDiarmid, Ralph [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:19 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Most residential high-rise

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-22 Thread Don Gies
C-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Good morning. There are oftensmall, legacy grids that you come across or hear about. I was recently told that some areas of the Northeast US have a 208 V, split-phase power system to some residences and small businesses. Still 180°

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-22 Thread Robert Johnson
Essentially all residential electrical services in the US are 120/240 volt split phase services. Electricians call this single phase service. As an electrical engineer, I like to think of it as two phase service, with phases at 180 degrees. You will not find residential service provided 208

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Doug Powell
Peter, The idea of a 208 V split phase is unusual and probably not the case here. The number 208 is obviously derived from a three phase system. I believe the system you are talking about is a red-leg or high-leg three phase system. Wikipedia does have a good review in this case (

[PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Peter Tarver
Good morning. There are oftensmall, legacy grids that you come across or hear about. I was recently told that some areas of the Northeast US have a 208 V, split-phase power system to some residences and small businesses. Still 180° phase-to-phase and presumably 104 V phase-to-Neutral. A

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Ted Eckert
nesday, October 21, 2015 9:01 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Peter, The idea of a 208 V split phase is unusual and probably not the case here. The number 208 is obviously derived from a three phase system. I believe the system you are talking about is a r

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Brian O'Connell
: [PSES] 208 split-phase? I've never heard of a Utility Company providing 208 "split-phase". I have heard the term "208 split-phase" many times from our customers who claim to have this but in reality what they have is 208 3-phase wired into a 230V split-phase receptacle but

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Ed Price
-Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:48 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Brian, Any significant impedance differences between these two supply configurations? Brian Sr

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Kunde, Brian
se. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@ieee.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:22 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Good morning. There are oftensmall, legacy grids that you come across or hear about. I was recently

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Peter Tarver
is used on the load side of the distribution transformer. I think I prefer “bastard leg.” Peter T *From:* Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 09:01 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Peter, The idea of a 208 V

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Peter Tarver
Brian of the nonburrito ilk - This is usually called 208 V single-phase. I'm still trying to clarify the specifics of the request. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Kunde, Brian > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:34 > > snip < > > I have heard the term "208 split-phase"

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Kunde, Brian
in most cases it works, so why not call it that? Non-Burrito Brian -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@enphaseenergy.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:27 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? Brian of the nonburrito ilk - This is usu

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Been there, done that with the fan too in order to test at +10%. -Dave From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:11 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase? When I had that same task, I just bought a several kW Variac, connected