Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Schmidt, Mark
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Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread John Howe
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Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
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Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Kevin J Harris
known weakness found at the design stage will often bite you in the field. Kind regards Kevin From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 2:14 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Schmidt, Mark
nesday, January 2, 2019 5:16 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system All, I received the following email from a customer today via their customer addressing our application of surge testing. We are testing laboratory eq

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Charlie Blackham
nde, Brian Sent: 03 January 2019 14:00 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system Group, This topic has resurrected a question I have always had about AC Mains Power in Europe. I have always believed that 230Vac in Europe is

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system All, I received the following email from a customer today via their customer addressing our application of surge testing. We are testing laboratory equipment per IEC/EN 61326-1 and IEC

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
5:16 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system All, I received the following email from a customer today via their customer addressing our application of surge testing. We are testing laboratory equipment per IEC/EN 61326-

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Derek Walton
Hi folks, I've been following this discussion but traveling so I haven't responded earlier. The situation when you have multiple power inputs arises across multiple standards, not just in the CE mark surge. And it's often dealt with in the same way. We develop the surge generator to represen

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-02 Thread John Woodgate
I feel sure that /"When testing line to ground, the lines are tested singly in sequence, if there is no other/ /specification."/ is about 3-phase supplies, not multiple mains leads. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-02 Thread John Howe
IEC 61000-4-5 (2005) does cover this and implies in section 8.3 (page 38 in my copy): "In the case of several identical circuits, representative measurements (plural) on a selected number of circuits may be sufficient. " and further down: "When testing line to ground, the lines are tested singly in

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-02 Thread John Woodgate
Should you be testing a 'system' as a whole anyway? My take on this is that if several pieces of equipment are invoiced together with a single price for the lot, that is a system and all must be tested together. But if the pieces are invoiced separately (so that other equipment might be substit

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-02 Thread Joe Randolph
llings [mailto:la...@complianceworldwide.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 5:16 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system All, I received the following email from a customer today via their customer addressing our application of

[PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-02 Thread Larry K. Stillings
All, I received the following email from a customer today via their customer addressing our application of surge testing. We are testing laboratory equipment per IEC/EN 61326-1 and IEC/EN 61326-2-6 and specifically are having failures with respect to surge on a system that has multiple power co