RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-20 Thread POWELL, DOUG
I would like to thank everyone for their responses. Once again, I see a demonstration of the expertise that exists in this forum. -doug From: POWELL, DOUG Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:48 AM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: PCB marked for UL 94V-0 Hello group, An interesting question

Re: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread soundsu...@aol.com
In a message dated 6/19/2003 2:46:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, drcuthb...@micron.com writes: Doug, I believe that 94V-0 indicates that the board is self-extinguishing. How about lighting it with a flame, or a glowing PCB trace, and then remove the flame. The board fire should go out.

Re: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread garymcintu...@aol.com
First of all I would update the note to say the board manufacturer must be a recognized printed wiring manufacturer, and then call out the flame rating you need on the board. You'll need the manufactures name or trademark, board model (single or multilayer), and the flame ratings stamped on

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Bryan - The only required markings are manufacturer's name and type designation. Marking the flammability classification is optional. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com From: Cole, Bryan

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread Peter L. Tarver
All - For those not familiar with Greg Gallucio's background, he used to head up the plastics and printed wiring boards (PWBs) group at UL's Melville, NY, office (among other things). During my tenure at UL, I also did work in those two product categories; my wife spent many years working with

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: PCB marked for UL 94V-0 Hello group, An interesting question came up about validating printed circuit board raw material. In searching for alternate vendors we provide a spec that V-0 material is required and a UL V-0 stamp be placed on the board. The question is, how

Re: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread soundsu...@aol.com
In a message dated 6/19/2003 2:04:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com writes: Greg - My recollection of the FUS Procedures is that they checked the laminate's manufacturer and type designation, but not necessarily the flammability classification. Did that change

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread Cole, Bryan [LBRT/CCC]
] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:48 PM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: PCB marked for UL 94V-0 Hello group, An interesting question came up about validating printed circuit board raw material. In searching for alternate vendors we provide a spec that V-0 material is required and a UL V-0 stamp

Re: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Doug: The question is, how do I independently validate the material used, since a vendor could theoretically choose whatever they want and stamp it as V-0? I interpret your question as to how to determine whether or not a PCB is counterfeit or not. A UL-certified PCB would have

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
: RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0 Doug - Chances are very good, if the finished board is V-0, the base laminate would also be capable of V-0, even if not separately tested. The converse is not necessarily true. I've seen V-0 laminates not comply with V-2 requirements after particularly harsh

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
Got it now: http://www.portplastics.com/plastics/techSpecs/index.html and hit UL Test Procedures Dave Cuthbert From: drcuthbert Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:05 PM To: 'Peter L. Tarver'; EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Cc: POWELL, DOUG Subject: RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0 94V test procedure

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread Peter L. Tarver
-sci.com -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of POWELL, DOUG Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:48 AM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: PCB marked for UL 94V-0 Hello group, An interesting question came up about

RE: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Greg - My recollection of the FUS Procedures is that they checked the laminate's manufacturer and type designation, but not necessarily the flammability classification. Did that change before you left UL? I note that the QMTS2 Guide Card only requires manufacturer's name and type designation.

Re: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread John Barnes
Doug, In researching the book that I am writing for Kluwer, Robust Electronic Design Reference, I ran across the following booklet: Lund, Preben, How to Design Printed Circuit Boards for UL Recognition. Westlake Village, CA: Bishop Graphics, 1983. In my manuscript, I discuss UL

Re: PCB marked for UL 94V-0

2003-06-19 Thread Lou Aiken
, mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com DOUG To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: PCB marked for UL 94V-0 Hello group, An interesting question came up about validating printed circuit board raw material. In searching for alternate vendors we provide a spec