Re: Altitude specifications

2003-05-22 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Jim: > My understanding is that the main 2 effects of increased altitude on > electronics are reduced effectiveness of forced-air and convection cooling > methods and reduced dielectric strength of air-gaps (clearances). I concur. > I believe the effects are linear with altitu

RE: Altitude specifications

2003-05-22 Thread Jim Eichner
22, 2003 4:34 PM To: jim.eich...@xantrex.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Altitude specifications Hi Jim: > My understanding is that the main 2 effects of increased altitude on > electronics are reduced effectiveness of forced-air and convection cooling > me

Re: Altitude specifications

2003-05-22 Thread scott.a.wou...@us.ul.com
Jim, >From a standards standpoint, altitude adjustments for dielectric values and creepage and clearance distances are outlined in IEC 61010-1:1993, clauses D.7.4 and D.9. These requirements probably come from IEC 60664-1 for Insulation Coordination in low voltage equipment, Annex A. The table

RE: Altitude specifications

2003-05-22 Thread Jim Eichner
56 AM To: Jim Eichner; 'EMC-PSTC - forum' Subject: Re: Altitude specifications The Paschen curve that describes air dielectric breakdown vs. pressure is not linear. I think you can find it in the Reference Handbook for Radio Engineers. > From: Jim Eichner > Reply-To: Jim Eichner

Re: Altitude specifications

2003-05-22 Thread Ken Javor
The Paschen curve that describes air dielectric breakdown vs. pressure is not linear. I think you can find it in the Reference Handbook for Radio Engineers. > From: Jim Eichner > Reply-To: Jim Eichner > Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:47:36 -0700 > To: "'EMC-PSTC - forum'" > Subject: Altitude speci

RE: Altitude

1998-06-05 Thread James, Chris
According to DHL they only use pressurised holds. > -Original Message- > From: Ing. Gert Gremmen [SMTP:cet...@cetest.nl] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 6:42 PM > To: James, Chris; rbus...@es.com; emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: Altitude > > I am not in the

RE: Altitude

1998-06-04 Thread Michael Royer
Bike tires are a different story. All bike tires I've ever met can handle 14 psi above the rated pressure easily. No trouble are introduced by lower ambient pressure, unless the tire is already overinflated. Often times there are problems with tires that have latent effects, not to be confused w

RE: Altitude

1998-06-04 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:RE: Altitude Can't answer for all components but of interest we had problems shipping some types of MO discs (discs not drives) in even semi pressurised hold conditions, where they would crack due to internal pressures within the disc structure. Is it heated? If no

RE: Altitude

1998-06-04 Thread James, Chris
Can't answer for all components but of interest we had problems shipping some types of MO discs (discs not drives) in even semi pressurised hold conditions, where they would crack due to internal pressures within the disc structure. Is it heated? If not it will be -50C or less also. It would seem

Re: Altitude

1998-06-04 Thread Michael Royer
Doesn't all this gassing stuff happen every time a chip gets hot, the cools off? What's different? Mike At 04:04 PM 6/3/98 -0700, Douglas Mckean wrote: >Well, > >Just for my two cents, 40,000 ft equates to roughly 1/5 the pressure at >sea level or almost 3 lbs/in^2 absolute compared against 1

Re: Altitude

1998-06-04 Thread Douglas Mckean
Well, Just for my two cents, 40,000 ft equates to roughly 1/5 the pressure at sea level or almost 3 lbs/in^2 absolute compared against 14.7 lbs/in^2 at sea level absolute. That leaves any type of plug or wall structure of the capacitor having to withstand 11 lbs/in^2 across it. Also, the

Re: Altitude

1998-06-03 Thread Fred Townsend
rbus...@es.com wrote: > > This is not a safety or EMI question, but because this group has such > broad backgrounds and diversity I am hoping that someone can comment. > > I have been asked by one of our customers to ensure that our equipment > is capable of being shipped in an un-pressurized air

RE: Altitude

1998-06-03 Thread Bob Brister
Rick writes: >This is not a safety or EMI question, but because this group has such >broad backgrounds and diversity I am hoping that someone can comment. >I have been asked by one of our customers to ensure that our equipment >is capable of being shipped in an un-pressurized aircraft for altitud

Re: Altitude

1998-06-03 Thread macy
Historically, the plastic IC packages shipped in this manner would evaporate all their inner pressure out during shipment and upon arrival in Los Angeles "suck" in the smoggy air to equalize the pressure after landing. This caused a very early failure mode that took a really bright engineer to fin