Re: BeCu problem

2003-02-01 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Fred Townsend wrote (in <3e3af280.5e519...@poasana.com>) about 'BeCu problem' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: >John, tubes are like vacuum deposition chambers. I have difficulty believing >that >a fancy form of carbon would be of any use in molded structures, HV, or HVAC. >These co

RE: BeCu problem

2003-02-01 Thread Gregg Kervill
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of drcuthbert Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:43 PM To: 'Fred Townsend'; John Woodgate Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: BeCu problem I worked on a 1 MW, 160 GHz Gyrotron in 1982 that used a

RE: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread drcuthbert
[mailto:f...@poasana.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:03 PM To: John Woodgate Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: BeCu problem John, tubes are like vacuum deposition chambers. I have difficulty believing that a fancy form of carbon would be of any use in molded structures, HV, or HVAC

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill wrote (in <004001c2c959$eb0daed0$7100a8c0@MENHADEN>) about 'BeCu problem' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: >Good point John - then we can justify the $5,000 screwdriver. You can buy Japanese loudspeakers with cones coated in VPD diamond now. Not cheap, but not in the m

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread Fred Townsend
John, tubes are like vacuum deposition chambers. I have difficulty believing that a fancy form of carbon would be of any use in molded structures, HV, or HVAC. These conditions are all found in radar tubes. Also, thanks to Greggs comment about fancy screw drivers, I remembered that BeCu screw dr

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that don_borow...@selinc.com wrote (in ) about 'BeCu problem' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: >I have seen stainless steel used as battery contacts. The contacts >developed an oxide on them that made it difficult to get power from the >battery. Seems to me that some plating could solve t

RE: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread Gregg Kervill
Good point John - then we can justify the $5,000 screwdriver. Gregg From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:35 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: BeCu problem I read in !emc

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread Doug Smith
Hi Jan, In addition to health aspects, BeCu is incompatible with most enclosure materials and coatings (to prevent rust and corrosion) used in equipment. After a couple of weeks a BeCu finger in contact with a chassis will leave a black smudge, the corrosion byproducts resulting >from the bat

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Fred Townsend wrote (in <3e3a35fb.6ecc...@poasana.com>) about 'BeCu problem' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: >BeO has seven times better thermal conductivity than AlO (alumina). There is >no real substitute for BeO at high power levels. It is still used by the >Military in high po

RE: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Jan - Both Be and BeO pose health risks. While I can't point to anything to support the claim, BeCu will probably become a part of the product take back/recycling. I did text searches of the WEEE and the RoHS Directives and found no mention of Be in any form. Be and its compounds are looked a

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Please respond to Fred Townsend Sent by:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To:Jan Vercammen cc:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:Re: BeCu problem I can't help you with the regulations but I can clarify the usage of Beryllium a bit. When Beryllium is added to copper it

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread Fred Townsend
I can't help you with the regulations but I can clarify the usage of Beryllium a bit. When Beryllium is added to copper it makes it very hard. It is used in gaskets to make them springy. Stainless steel is a poor substitute because it lacks both the electrical and thermal conductivity. So far