RE: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-25 Thread Mike Hopkins
com www.thermo.com/esd One Thermo, committed to integrity, intensity, innovation & involvement From: Peter L. Tarver [mailto:peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:09 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: IEC and EN standard relationships Mike - I'

RE: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-25 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Mike - I'd like to understand who is making any such commands to ANSI, et al. While I understand there is a move (and has existed for some time) to migrate to the IEC format for standards, there is no entity that I am aware of issuing dicta to standards bodies in the US. ANSI -- ANSI sponsors

RE: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-18 Thread Mike Hopkins
Fax: +1 978 275 0850 michael.hopk...@thermo.com www.thermo.com/esd One Thermo, committed to integrity, intensity, innovation & involvement From: richhug...@aol.com [mailto:richhug...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:50 AM To: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-18 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in <1e0.13a69d51.2ceb 5...@aol.com>) about 'IEC and EN standard relationships' on Tue, 18 Nov 2003: >I did not have the intention of singling you out, only of finishing >our thread. > I would not have made that comment if I had realised t

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-18 Thread richhug...@aol.com
John, I did not have the intention of singling you out, only of finishing our thread. It has disappointed me that, seemingly, the great majority of information flow on this thread has been due to individuals in Europe explaining how CENELEC standards relate to IEC standards but not how standards

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-17 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in <126.349fcefb.2cea 1...@aol.com>) about 'IEC and EN standard relationships' on Mon, 17 Nov 2003: >I did read what you wrote, which was "There are always >differences".  Do you pick up on everyone else's posts like this, or are you af

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-17 Thread richhug...@aol.com
John, I did read what you wrote, which was "There are always differences". If you look at what I wrote, you will see that I gave an example of a standard where the CENELEC version of the IEC standard has no Common Modifications, no Special National Conditions and no 'A' Deviations. So where ar

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-15 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in <1e4.13640b3e.2ce6 b...@aol.com>) about 'IEC and EN standard relationships' on Fri, 14 Nov 2003: >There are not always technical deviations between IEC and EN >standards, for instances there are no differences in the body of >the

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-14 Thread richhug...@aol.com
John, There are not always technical deviations between IEC and EN standards, for instances there are no differences in the body of the standard between the latest versions of IEC 60825-1 and EN 60825-1. Of course, CENELEC standards have a Date of Withdrawal of conflicting standards which IEC sta

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-14 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Ralph McDiarmid wrote (in <67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB60581A444@BCMAIL1>) about 'IEC and EN standard relationships' on Fri, 14 Nov 2003: >What would be an example of a Common Deviation? > Common Modification. An example from BS EN 60950-1:2001 is the addition of Eu

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-14 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Ablewisp - Compliance Engineers wrote (in ) about 'IEC and EN standard relationships' on Fri, 14 Nov 2003: >A client located outside the EU has a large number of IEC standards. >They would like to determine the differences between their IEC standards >and the equivale

RE: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-14 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
What would be an example of a Common Deviation? thanks, Ralph McDiarmid, AScT Compliance Engineering Group Xantrex Technology Inc. From: John Allen [mailto:ja014d7...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: November 14, 2003 12:13 PM To: Ablewisp - Compliance Engineers; Emc-Pstc Subject: Re: IEC and EN

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-14 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Stuart, Technically, BS EN 60xxx is the same as NF 60xxx with the exception that the BS version is in English and the NF version is in French. All language variants of an EN contain all national differences and Common Modifications. If you look at the listing of standards in the OJEC you will

Re: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-14 Thread John Allen
Stuart As many people in this group can tell you, when CENELEC adopts an IEC as an EN (almost always under the same numeric reference) it declares any Common deviations in an annex at the back of the EN version - hence the need to (in theory, at least) buy the EN! However, any deviations in IE