Re: Leakage Current Measurements

2000-10-04 Thread Ralph Cameron
Ken: Analog meters are inherently good low pass filters and will mask any high frequency components. The same is truefor most DMMs unless they have been specified for higher frequencies. Typically, don't expect much accuracy beyond 100Khz for soem of the best DMMs. You can always use a scope wi

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

2000-10-04 Thread David Gelfand
If anyone is curious, I have a graph of the frequency response of Annex D using an excel spreadsheet. Contact me off-line. Regards, David. David Gelfand Regulatory Approvals Memotec Communications Inc. Montreal Canada --- This message is from the IEEE

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

2000-10-04 Thread KBJ
Dear Ken In EN 60950 and UL1950 appendix D you can find a description on how to measure leakage current and the specifications for the meter. This is taken from another standard which I don't know the number of. If you don't use a meter with the right data you will never know what is the right

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

2000-10-04 Thread Robert Macy
.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Leakage Current Measurements > > > > >Hi Ken: > > >> I found something interesting today. While measuring leakage current with a >> digital multimeter, I

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

2000-10-04 Thread Randolf Keller/Jpn/TUV
Rich Nute cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent by: Subject: Re: Leakage Current

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

2000-10-03 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Ken: > I found something interesting today. While measuring leakage current with a > digital multimeter, I noticed a high amount of leakage. The unit > incorporates a switching power supply, with some EMI/EMC circuitry. Anyhow, > I read somewhere that DMMs are some times inaccur

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

2000-10-03 Thread Jim Eichner
You need to add a network in series with any meter that isn't specifically a "leakage current meter". This human body network model is typically a 1500 ohm resistor in parallel with a 0.15uF cap. Obviously without it you get a very much higher reading than with it. If you did have that netwo

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-19 Thread POWELL, DOUG
sday, March 17, 1999 5:00 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Leakage Current Measurements Interesting. During an audit of the facilities of a former employer, the auditor specifically requested that we didn't use the Simpson 228 for EN60950 because of the roll-off of the analog movemen

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-18 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Frank: > Interesting. During an audit of the facilities of a former employer, the > auditor specifically requested that we didn't use the Simpson 228 for > EN60950 because of the roll-off of the analog movement above 100Hz. The > suggested fix was to build the network as descri

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-18 Thread FRANK GOTO
Interesting. During an audit of the facilities of a former employer, the auditor specifically requested that we didn't use the Simpson 228 for EN60950 because of the roll-off of the analog movement above 100Hz. The suggested fix was to build the network as described in the standard, with a hi

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-17 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Peter, We use a fixture described in the EN 60950, IEC 61010 or EN50178 standards along with an analog meter movement, as described in the standard. The reason for the analog meter, according to the inspector is that many of the digital meters have an aliasing problem at low frequencies. However

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-17 Thread Rich Nute
> A meter for IEC 60950 may not be adequate for IEC 61010, > especially if the unit under test has a reasonably high > frequency switch mode power supply. The high frequencies generated in a switching mode power supply are negligible in the presence of the mains-frequency leakage cur

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-17 Thread Mis, Daniel J
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RE: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-17 Thread Peter Merguerian
: pe...@itl.co.il, emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Leakage Current Measurements Date sent: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:50:33 -0500 Send reply to: "Russell, Ray" > Greetings, > > I have used the ED&D leakage current for my previous 2 emp

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-15 Thread Russell, Ray
.org Subject: Re: Leakage Current Measurements ED&D Inc. also offers several Leakage Current Meters specific to different Standards. They are located in Morrisville NC 919-469-9434 Ed - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail t

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-15 Thread Metse
ED&D Inc. also offers several Leakage Current Meters specific to different Standards. They are located in Morrisville NC 919-469-9434 Ed - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscr

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-13 Thread Rich Nute
2 Mar 1999 04:38:08 -0500 (EST) > Message-ID: <286215c2ca1ad211a13500a024535b58424...@eukscpo3.dundee.ncr.com> > From: "Crabb, John" > To: "'pe...@itl.co.il'" , emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: Leakage Current Measurements > Date: Fri, 12

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-12 Thread mike harris
Hi Peter, We use a Fluke 8010A to measure current directly, instead of voltage. We have correlated with UL's meters very closely & have had no disagreement with UL, CSA, or TUV engineers. Mike Harris/Teccom co. tecco...@i-cafe.net 707-258-1360/fax 1361 -- > From: Peter Merguerian > To:

RE: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-12 Thread Crabb, John
We use a Yokogawa 3226 Universal Leakage Current Tester together with a 3227 Test Box. The meter has both an "AC" and an "AC+DC" current range, and switchable 1K, 1.5K, and 2K input resistance. The test box has a polarity and an on-off switch to simplify testing, and has a US mains socket into w

Re: Leakage Current Measurements

1999-03-12 Thread HAhmadi
Peter, We use Simpson model 229-2 even for UL1950 3rd edition and a UL engineer told us that would be fine. However UL themself use model 228 for 3rd edition and 229-2 for 2nd edition. We also use the in-house kit that has been built in accordance with Annex D/G for production line. This is as goo