Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment )

2006-09-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
As to deciding which version of EN 60204-1 to use: a small added complication is that it is on the harmonized lists for both MD and LVD. (At the moment, both lists are in agreement, with each other if not with Cenelec!) There are other examples (LVD MD), such as EN 60335-1. And EN 61131-2

Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment )

2006-09-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Scott, A test standard or a product family/product standard or a generic standard is ratified/adopted by CEN/CENELEC/ETSI and therefore applicable as a normal standard (product liabillity!!!) but NOT under the CE regime until the publication in the OJEU! That is a time problem because e. g. the

Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment )

2006-09-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
That is one of our big problems in Europe: CENELEC/CEN/ETSI are publishing new standards e.g. EN 60204-1:2006-06 but the commission don´t publish these reference just in time! Therefore the new standards haven´t a presumption of conformity in the meaning of the new approach! We have a long list

Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment )

2006-09-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
However, it is my understanding that if it has not been published in the OJ, it doesn't exist as a valid test standard yet?? Scott M. Loerzer-Mobile \(GLOBALNORM\) loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de 09/12/2006 04:35 PM To Glyn Garside ggars...@us.tuv.com, Scott Barrows/USA/VERITAS@VERITAS

Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment )

2006-09-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
EN 692 has been the subject of a long running argument about the use of two hand controls. I've not looked at the new version, but I think this is likely to be the main area of concern about old standard. Let me know if you really want to know more and I'll ask my press specialist what he sees

Re: New lists of Harmonized Stds for Machinery, Lifts (elevators) and PPE (personal protective equipment )

2006-09-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi All, I notice that the new EN 60204-1 was not included on the applicable standards?? Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To