Re: [Emc-users] Setting up Axis for one rotary axis

2008-11-09 Thread Alex Joni
Hi Jon, the failing message: > emcTrajSetAxes failing: axes=2 axismask=9 > followed by : > emctaskmain.cc 2605 can't initialize motion usually means there is a problem with how you set up [TRAJ] COORDINATES, and [AXIS_*] sections. You probably need to have AXES = 4 (to cover X,Y,Z,A), but coordi

Re: [Emc-users] I & J code

2008-11-09 Thread Terry
Andre B wrote: >I think just leave EMC as it is and write a little app that does the >conversion off line, most any CAM system should be able to output >either format so we are only talking about a few existing old g code >programs. In my opinion the user would be better off rewriting those

[Emc-users] Setting up Axis for one rotary axis

2008-11-09 Thread Jon Elson
I'm trying to set up a computer for a customer who wants to just run a single rotary axis with EMC. He's using my PWM board and one servo amp. I was trying to strip down a 4-axis configuration to just run the one axis. So far, I have built a complete one-axis and a two-axis set of configs file

[Emc-users] Lathe diameter mode

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Radek
More about lathe diameter mode on the Fanuc 0-TC (I found the manual): In diameter mode: X specifies a diameter U specifies an incremental diameter (not relevant in EMC) coordinate system setting is done in diameter (like our G10L2 and G92?) X tool offsets can be in radius

Re: [Emc-users] I & J code

2008-11-09 Thread Greg Michalski
Isn't the math: I(relative) = I(absolute) - X(start) J(relative)=J(absolute)-Y(start) ? Carl Helquist Hello Carl Your math's is right (I think so) However your assertion in my ability or inclination to write a script or program, sorry wrong. Best wishes Dave If that math is correct then c

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 and 160 volt pwm servo amps

2008-11-09 Thread John Kasunich
Jon Elson wrote: > Roger Swift wrote: >> Jon, >> The mill is larger than a Bridgeport. Its a 7,000# Tree Journeyman 300 with a >> 12X26X6 envelope and a 500# part capacity. The motors, reduction (about >> 2.5:1), >> ball screws and encoder counts were not changed in the conversion to Mach3. >> Th

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 and 160 volt pwm servo amps

2008-11-09 Thread Jon Elson
Roger Swift wrote: > Jon, > The mill is larger than a Bridgeport. Its a 7,000# Tree Journeyman 300 with a > 12X26X6 envelope and a 500# part capacity. The motors, reduction (about > 2.5:1), > ball screws and encoder counts were not changed in the conversion to Mach3. > The > original amps, servo

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
If you are machining an arc in the X-Z plane and the X has been scaled to half it's true value then the arc will come out squashed. Les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why would the turned radius be ellitical? > - This SF.Ne

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
The GUI also needs to know about this. Presumably there is a way of notifying the GUI if a Gxx is issued to change between radius and diameter. Does anyone know if any other control uses a suitable G-code for this? Les Jeff Epler wrote: > It should almost certainly be a modal code, similar to

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Jeff Epler
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 11:32:21PM +, Leslie Newell wrote: > Looking at the interpreter, it appears that X is always read with the > read_x function in rs274ngc/interp_read.cc. If that is the case, a > simple tweak to that function should be all that is needed. What is > would be the 'approv

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread stustev
Why would the turned radius be ellitical? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Leslie Newell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:55:45 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support Hi Jon, > If you just want diameter read

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Jon, > If you just want diameter readout, what would happen if you changed the > INPUT_SCALE to be half the value? > BTDT. The problem, as you mentioned, is that arcs come out elliptical. > First part doesn't sound too hard, but I haven't heard of anyone using > the joystick inputs like

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43 (Ted - long)

2008-11-09 Thread Ted Hyde
Richard - While I'm no 7i43 expert, I appear to be part of the small group of those who have been able to get it to work. It took a while - EMC setup is by no means on the same level as a USB Hard Drive - I'm hoping that you realize the reason you are getting so many requests for information o

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Chris, > The manual I have (but can't find) for a (mumble mumble) Fanuc > lathe control says I,K are still radius even when X is diameter. I > don't know how universal this is. But it makes sense to me - when you > talk about the radius of a feature on a lathe part (like a fillet) you > don'

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 and 160 volt pwm servo amps

2008-11-09 Thread Roger Swift
Jon, The mill is larger than a Bridgeport. Its a 7,000# Tree Journeyman 300 with a 12X26X6 envelope and a 500# part capacity. The motors, reduction (about 2.5:1), ball screws and encoder counts were not changed in the conversion to Mach3. The original amps, servo dynamics, were rated for 20 amps co

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 05:23:19PM +, Leslie Newell wrote: > > I have been looking into it. As far as I can see, to get a basic > diameter mode working the interpreter needs to halve the X and I values > in the two relevant read functions. The manual I have (but can't find) for a (mumble m

Re: [Emc-users] Video problems Ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-09 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 12:40:35AM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > >> Anybody seen this, or know what to do >> > > For things that aren't obviously EMC related, please use google first. > A zillion people are using Ubuntu and there's a big community > reporting and/or fixing

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43

2008-11-09 Thread Alex Joni
> Yes i did, in several different times and ways, i sent errors and hal > file inline and pastebin, i just lost my history emails so i can't > brought it back, but if you or someone else could search history could > find it. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/10334 That is

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43

2008-11-09 Thread Alex Joni
>>What version of EMC you are using from the pastebin links you sent I'll assume 2.2.6 >>What your HAL file looks like there is a hal file you put on pastebin, but it has almost all lines commented out. > Yes i did, in several different times and ways, i sent errors and hal > file in

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43

2008-11-09 Thread noel
Richard, I'm a happy and satisfied Mesanet customer. I use a 5i20, 7i33 and 7i37. with the 'stock' and 'proven' EMC2 configurations. I have stayed away from the 7i43 until the EMC2 driver and configurations are thoroughly worked out. Noel Rodes 'Roguish' on IRC -Original Message- From:

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43

2008-11-09 Thread Richard Acosta
OK, thanks it sounds fair to me, will tell my partner and come back. Thanks everyone. El 07/11/08 22:48, Peter C. Wallace escribio': > On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > > >> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:34:08 -0500 >> From: Jim Fleig - CNC Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-T

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43

2008-11-09 Thread Richard Acosta
El 07/11/08 21:12, Sebastian Kuzminsky escribió: > What is your setup, what did you try, and what happened? Be specific. > Cut-and-paste information is better than rephrasing it in your own words. > That's what i'm asking for, a working file or at least a working sample, everything i tryed ev

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43

2008-11-09 Thread Richard Acosta
El 07/11/08 21:20, Peter C. Wallace escribio': > Also HostMot2 driver support is very new, requiring that you update your EMC2 > installation to the latest (trunk) version. > Well, waht about i don know nothing about that, trunk, cvs, compiling and such things, have told that very clear. > W

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 and 160 volt pwm servo amps

2008-11-09 Thread John Kasunich
Jon Elson wrote: > Roger Swift wrote: >> I have a mill that has 160 volt 20 amp motors and a Mesa 7I43 board. Is >> anyone using EMC2 with the 7I43 and Hostmot2 with Jon Elison's or Mesa's >> 7I29 PWM servo amps? Are there any other reasonably priced (~$150 axis) PWM >> amps available that are w

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Jon Elson
Leslie Newell wrote: > Thanks for the responses. > > >> In the upcoming EMC 2.3 there is a "spindle at speed" HAL input, so >> EMC will pause motion to let the spindle speed up or slow down before >> starting a feed, if in CSS mode >> > > So what happens with this signal if you are using CS

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 and 160 volt pwm servo amps

2008-11-09 Thread Jon Elson
Roger Swift wrote: > I have a mill that has 160 volt 20 amp motors and a Mesa 7I43 board. Is > anyone using EMC2 with the 7I43 and Hostmot2 with Jon Elison's or Mesa's 7I29 > PWM servo amps? Are there any other reasonably priced (~$150 axis) PWM amps > available that are working? > 160 V x 20

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 and 160 volt pwm servo amps

2008-11-09 Thread John Kasunich
Roger Swift wrote: > I have a mill that has 160 volt 20 amp motors and a Mesa 7I43 board. Is > anyone using EMC2 with the 7I43 and Hostmot2 with Jon Elison's or Mesa's 7I29 > PWM servo amps? Are there any other reasonably priced (~$150 axis) PWM amps > available that are working? > The answer t

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread John Kasunich
Leslie Newell wrote: > Hi Chris, > > >> In CSS mode, at every rapid->feed transition, it waits for the spindle >> to be at speed. Once a feed is started, it does not wait anymore >> until after the next rapid. So for the facing situation where you >> feed in to the center, rapid out in Z a bit,

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Morley
> > So you just need to have the polarity of the X axis (and maybe the> spindle > > direction) switch when the rear tool is selected? Thinking> aloud ...> The okuma lathe I used had a g code to switch to mirror image. After that, the spindle direction was inversed, x direction was inversed and

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:24 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 16:51 +, Leslie Newell wrote: > > Hi Kirk, > > > > > Will the tool posts move independently, or like a gang tool lathe? > > > > > > > Basically gang tooling. The rear tool post is mounted on the rear of the > >

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Kirk, Yes, basically you reflect the X axis about the origin. The only problem is that this has to be done in your current coordinate system, before the tool offset is applied. If I understand your solution correctly it would change the machine coordinates. X=0 in machine coordinates will u

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 16:51 +, Leslie Newell wrote: > Hi Kirk, > > > Will the tool posts move independently, or like a gang tool lathe? > > > > Basically gang tooling. The rear tool post is mounted on the rear of the > X slide. In most cases it is fitted with a parting tool. > > Les So

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Chris, > In CSS mode, at every rapid->feed transition, it waits for the spindle > to be at speed. Once a feed is started, it does not wait anymore > until after the next rapid. So for the facing situation where you > feed in to the center, rapid out in Z a bit, rapid to X=big radius, > rapid

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Kirk, > Will the tool posts move independently, or like a gang tool lathe? > Basically gang tooling. The rear tool post is mounted on the rear of the X slide. In most cases it is fitted with a parting tool. Les - Thi

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:21:30PM +, Chris Morley wrote: > I beleive a component for comparing that the requested speed and the actual > speed are with in a selectable tolerance was made. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/near.9.html

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 03:46:58PM +, Leslie Newell wrote: > Thanks for the responses. > > > In the upcoming EMC 2.3 there is a "spindle at speed" HAL input, so > > EMC will pause motion to let the spindle speed up or slow down before > > starting a feed, if in CSS mode > > So what happens wi

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Morley
> So what happens with this signal if you are using CSS when facing? In > that > case the spindle speed is changing with the cut diameter I beleive a component for comparing that the requested speed and the actual speed are with in a selectable tolerance was made. You could also build your own

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 15:46 +, Leslie Newell wrote: ... snip > Front/rear tool posts - Can EMC handle a rear tool post without using > negative coordinates for the rear post? > Probably interfaced with a 5i20 card. > > I have a similar setup using Mach on my current machine. > > Thanks, > Le

Re: [Emc-users] Video problems Ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 12:40:35AM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > > Anybody seen this, or know what to do For things that aren't obviously EMC related, please use google first. A zillion people are using Ubuntu and there's a big community reporting and/or fixing bugs. http://www.google.com/search?q=

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread Leslie Newell
Thanks for the responses. > In the upcoming EMC 2.3 there is a "spindle at speed" HAL input, so > EMC will pause motion to let the spindle speed up or slow down before > starting a feed, if in CSS mode So what happens with this signal if you are using CSS when facing? In that case the spindle sp

[Emc-users] Hostmot2 and 160 volt pwm servo amps

2008-11-09 Thread Roger Swift
I have a mill that has 160 volt 20 amp motors and a Mesa 7I43 board. Is anyone using EMC2 with the 7I43 and Hostmot2 with Jon Elison's or Mesa's 7I29 PWM servo amps? Are there any other reasonably priced (~$150 axis) PWM amps available that are working? I've been running my mill for 6 or 7 yea

Re: [Emc-users] Various problems with boards, drivers, modules, Linices, etc.

2008-11-09 Thread John Thornton
That is the great thing about a wiki site once you start a page others can add to and edit the page... Sounds like you know more or less what you want to see on the page... John On 9 Nov 2008 at 7:05, Jack Coats wrote: > I can start it, I just don't know what 'columns' to put in. My rig > is

[Emc-users] long spindle carver with emc.

2008-11-09 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; Has anyone stumbled across a reasonably priced, cnc-able machine that would basically be long bed lathe, for wood carving? Where the lathes spindle motor would be driven as in how we now do the A axis, x would be say 48" to be able to reach all of a gunstock, and y, z with sufficien

Re: [Emc-users] Various problems with boards, drivers, modules, Linices, etc.

2008-11-09 Thread Jack Coats
I can start it, I just don't know what 'columns' to put in. My rig isn't 'going' yet so I hesitate to put mine into 'what works' just yet. John Thornton wrote: > Anyone can add a wiki page... did you just volunteer? > > John > > On 8 Nov 2008 at 21:33, Jack Coats wrote: > > >> even just a pla

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe support

2008-11-09 Thread John Thornton
Les, Some info on lathe support is here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//gcode_main.html#sec:G76:-Threading- Canned also look up Tool Table in the User Manual John On 8 Nov 2008 at 23:43, Leslie Newell wrote: > Does anyone know the current state of lathe support? I have been > searching

Re: [Emc-users] Various problems with boards, drivers, modules, Linices, etc.

2008-11-09 Thread John Thornton
Anyone can add a wiki page... did you just volunteer? John On 8 Nov 2008 at 21:33, Jack Coats wrote: > even just a place defined in the wiki, like a table, listing 'working > setups' with their configuration, and encourage everyone, i.e. 'hobby' > (small, medium and large), light industrial, and

Re: [Emc-users] I & J code

2008-11-09 Thread Matt Shaver
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 23:13 -0500, John Kasunich wrote: > The Mach manual says "In Absolute it will, of course usually be > necessary to use both I and J words unless by chance the arc's centre is > at the origin." So Mach is using zero if you don't specify I or J (or > K, depending on the plane).

Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration

2008-11-09 Thread tomp
Jimmy, 'single radial acc' does not exist in emc the quote you mentioned was in context of 'cnc controls' , not 'emc' regards tomp Jimmy Schneiderman wrote: > Dear Tomp, > > Where are located linear accelation parameter per linear axis and where is > located the single radial accelation parameter

Re: [Emc-users] I & J code

2008-11-09 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:13:00 -0500, you wrote: >Comments and suggestions are welcome, but if you want to make I/J/K >optional in absolute mode, be prepared to define exactly what will >happen in all cases, and come up with very good reasons to justify the >additional complexity. Hi John - when I