Re: [Emc-users] four/five axis design

2011-04-06 Thread Sven Wesley
I know, it's the easiest. Unfortunately, it's kinda hard to tilt a workshop floor. With that said, I need a tilting head... 2011/4/4 Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com You can equally tilt the table to get the same/similar machining envelope. It depends on what you are going to make and

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 April 2011 11:15, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: 1/4 thick usually and yes 90 degrees It shouldn't come as any real surprise that a plastic is plastic -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 11:14:47AM -0400, Tom Easterday wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Note that with grub2, ie Ubuntu 10.04, there is a directory of files which are executed in order whenever grub is reconfigured. It looks like the output of those files

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-06 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/6/2011 7:28 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: ... That would rely on the fact that we do not output to stdout, so that if grub-mkconfig ends without spontaneous output, there is nothing to write to disk when grub-mkconfig closes its filedescriptor _after_ all the helper scripts, including

[Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
I have 400V servo drives, 350V motors and 240V single-phase mains power. Is there any reason that my servo power supplies need to be anything more than a rectifier and caps? I will probably add a PTC and an input fuse too. Would a relay/resistor to discharge the caps on power-off be usual? --

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Igor Chudov
normally people discharge caps through a resistor only. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:18 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I have 400V servo drives, 350V motors and 240V single-phase mains power. Is there any reason that my servo power supplies need to be anything more than a rectifier and

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, andy pugh wrote: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:18:18 +0100 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] PSU I

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 April 2011 14:31, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: normally people discharge caps through a resistor only. In that case, what would be the normal discharge time? Last time I did the calculations it looked like a permanently-connected resistor needed to be rated at several tens of watts

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 08:46:21AM -0400, Ed Nisley wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 21:28 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: Perhaps b) is the way to go? At the risk of appearing an ungrateful wretch, it seems the problem has been transformed from: - remember to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg after

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:51 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 April 2011 14:31, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: normally people discharge caps through a resistor only. In that case, what would be the normal discharge time? Last time I did the calculations it looked like a

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-06 Thread Tom Easterday
On Apr 6, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Ed Nisley wrote: While script twiddling may be a cleaner solution, the whole apparat can cause even more mysterious failures than my usual Whoops, forgot to edit grub.cfg again! error. Any system update that clobbers those files or the assumptions going into them

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 02:51:02PM +0100, andy pugh wrote: On 6 April 2011 14:31, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: normally people discharge caps through a resistor only. In that case, what would be the normal discharge time? Last time I did the calculations it looked like a

Re: [Emc-users] four/five axis design

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
I'm working with a company right now that is assembling a very large 5 axis machine.The too head pivots in two axes and and it is mounted on a gantry slide to create the 5 axes. The final drive at the head is via wide toothed belts - HTD type of similar. The head is a yoke type design -

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
On 4/6/2011 9:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: I have 400V servo drives, 350V motors and 240V single-phase mains power. Is there any reason that my servo power supplies need to be anything more than a rectifier and caps? I will probably add a PTC and an input fuse too. Would a relay/resistor to

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
It does make logical sense but all of the websites ( I found ) say that heat is required to bend polycarbonate. Perhaps they are confusing Lexan with Plexiglass... I like the just throw it in the bender idea myself! :-) Much simpler. Thanks, Dave On 4/6/2011 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 6

[Emc-users] 'Tool radius not less than arc radius with comp'

2011-04-06 Thread Les Newell
Why is it an error for a concave arc's radius to be equal to the tool radius when using tool comp? Admittedly it will result in a zero length move but in that case the move can be simply ignored, just like a zero length linear move is ignored. Les

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/06/2011 10:36 AM, Dave wrote: It does make logical sense but all of the websites ( I found ) say that heat is required to bend polycarbonate. Perhaps they are confusing Lexan with Plexiglass... I like the just throw it in the bender idea myself! :-) Much simpler. Thanks, Dave

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
Plexiglas does shatter... I have first hand experience with that. I thought thermoforming was required of Lexan also, otherwise I would have bending Lexan years ago! :-) That is a huge advantage. Dave On 4/6/2011 10:48 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On 04/06/2011 10:36 AM, Dave wrote: It

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:00:15AM -0400, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... That would rely on the fact that we do not output to stdout, so that if grub-mkconfig ends without spontaneous output, there is nothing to write to disk when grub-mkconfig closes its filedescriptor _after_ all the helper

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Igor Chudov
I did an experiment. I took a 1/4 thick piece of junk Lexan, and beat it with a steel bar. The Lexan piece would not shatter. It is supposed to be bendable cold, but I do not have the facilities to do this. I bend mine with a gas torch. I learned how to be careful with the torch, to avoid most

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 04/06/2011 07:32 AM, Dave wrote: On 4/6/2011 9:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: I have 400V servo drives, 350V motors and 240V single-phase mains power. Is there any reason that my servo power supplies need to be anything more than a rectifier and caps? I will probably add a PTC and an input fuse

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-06 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:40:39 PM Ed Nisley did opine: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 21:28 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: Perhaps b) is the way to go? At the risk of appearing an ungrateful wretch, it seems the problem has been transformed from: - remember to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Re: [Emc-users] Beating Grub2 into submission

2011-04-06 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 01:04:20 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: On 4/6/2011 7:28 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: ... That would rely on the fact that we do not output to stdout, so that if grub-mkconfig ends without spontaneous output, there is nothing to write to disk when grub-mkconfig

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Rafael Skodlar wrote: Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 09:45:45 -0700 From: Rafael Skodlar ra...@linwin.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PSU On 04/06/2011 07:32 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 01:07:23 PM andy pugh did opine: I have 400V servo drives, 350V motors and 240V single-phase mains power. Is there any reason that my servo power supplies need to be anything more than a rectifier and caps? I will probably add a PTC and an input fuse too.

Re: [Emc-users] Android powered touch screen tablets

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
Here is a really cheap $100 7 touch screen that runs off Windows via a USB interface.. unfortunately there are no Linux drivers, yet. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6321954CatId=1449 Dave On 4/4/2011 10:09 AM, Dave wrote: I just did a search on

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
On 4/6/2011 1:18 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: The relay/resistor combination can do this much faster that a reasonably bleeder, say .5 seconds or so. This makes the power supply safer and provides braking of all servo axis in a fault condition. That's what I was thinking. And since the

Re: [Emc-users] Android powered touch screen tablets

2011-04-06 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 02:06:35 PM Dave did opine: Here is a really cheap $100 7 touch screen that runs off Windows via a USB interface.. unfortunately there are no Linux drivers, yet. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=6321954CatId=1449

Re: [Emc-users] Android powered touch screen tablets

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
On 4/6/2011 2:08 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 02:06:35 PM Dave did opine: Here is a really cheap $100 7 touch screen that runs off Windows via a USB interface.. unfortunately there are no Linux drivers, yet.

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, andy pugh wrote: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 20:49:16 +0100 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PSU

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
Compare and contrast: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RIFA-EVOX-CAPACITOR-PEH200-3300UF-NEW-/180648591924 and http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProductR=3111254 == eBay Bargain. Whereas: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Epcos-Electrolytic-Capacitor-2200uF-B43564A5228M000 and

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Igor Chudov
Just a data point, I used a 10,000 uF capacitor for my 72v, 25A power supply. Seems to work great. i On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:49 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: And now the cap sizing. If I say that I can put up with 10% ripple at max rated current (7.5A for the motors) on a nominal

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 April 2011 20:59, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Epcos-Electrolytic-Capacitor-2200uF-B43564A5228M000 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Epcos-Electrolytic-Capacitor-2200uF-B43564A5228M000-/290534781332 (if anyone cares). Basically 3x the price from eBay as from the

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 April 2011 20:57, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Just a data point, I used a 10,000 uF capacitor for my 72v, 25A power supply. 10,000uF @ 100V is £20 10,000uF @ 400V is £135 Perhaps a transformer would be more cost-effective :-) -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 04:02:33 PM andy pugh did opine: And now the cap sizing. If I say that I can put up with 10% ripple at max rated current (7.5A for the motors) on a nominal 300V then I end up with C = 7.5A X 10mS / 30V = 2500uF. Eeek! Understatement Andy, it will weld relays

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
And now the cap sizing. If I say that I can put up with 10% ripple at max rated current (7.5A for the motors) on a nominal 300V then I end up with C = 7.5A X 10mS / 30V = 2500uF. Eeek! http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProductR=5436785 Is the cheapest that is

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, andy pugh wrote: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:07:53 +0100 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PSU On 6

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:14 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 04:02:33 PM andy pugh did opine: And now the cap sizing. If I say that I can put up with 10% ripple at max rated current (7.5A for the motors) on a nominal 300V then I end up with C = 7.5A

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 April 2011 21:14, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Understatement Andy, it will weld relays closed with the inrush unless surge limited. I have plenty of NTC surge limiters.  And for 60hz power, your 10ms would be 8.333 for a full wave bridge. Yes, but I have proper,

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 04:25:58 PM Igor Chudov did opine: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:14 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 04:02:33 PM andy pugh did opine: And now the cap sizing. If I say that I can put up with 10% ripple at max rated current

Re: [Emc-users] PSU

2011-04-06 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 04:28:52 PM andy pugh did opine: On 6 April 2011 21:14, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Understatement Andy, it will weld relays closed with the inrush unless surge limited. I have plenty of NTC surge limiters. �And for 60hz power, your 10ms would be

Re: [Emc-users] Android powered touch screen tablets

2011-04-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: On 4/6/2011 2:08 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 02:06:35 PM Dave did opine: Here is a really cheap $100 7 touch screen that runs off Windows via a USB interface.. unfortunately there are no Linux

Re: [Emc-users] 'Tool radius not less than arc radius with comp'

2011-04-06 Thread Dave Caroline
it will undercut the material or the adjoining moves have to be shortened Dave Caroline On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Les Newell les.new...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: Why is it an error for a concave arc's radius to be equal to the tool radius when using tool comp? Admittedly it will result in a

Re: [Emc-users] 'Tool radius not less than arc radius with comp'

2011-04-06 Thread Les Newell
Not if they are the same. The offset arc will have exactly zero length so there wil not be any undercut. Les On 06/04/11 22:23, Dave Caroline wrote: it will undercut the material or the adjoining moves have to be shortened Dave Caroline