Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
jeremy youngs wrote: > yes jon i just checked my math and 120x1.414 is 169 ? > where was my head at when i was calculating that last month > :( > thats kinda sad b/c it seems large transformers are always necessary , and > the cores seem to be the problem to get if one wants to roll their own.

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 April 2013 22:04:26 Steve Blackmore did opine: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:25:05 -0400, you wrote: > >On Tuesday 30 April 2013 12:06:13 Cecil Thomas did opine: > >> Gene, > >> You need to remember that the seemingly high hp ratings of these > >> relatively small motors is due to the ver

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
Gregg Eshelman wrote: > --- On Tue, 4/30/13, John Kasunich wrote: > > >> From: John Kasunich >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 12:56 PM >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013, at 02:14 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread jeremy youngs
yes jon i just checked my math and 120x1.414 is 169 ? where was my head at when i was calculating that last month :( thats kinda sad b/c it seems large transformers are always necessary , and the cores seem to be the problem to get if one wants to roll their own. hey you could always design for

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 30 April 2013 12:52:04 jeremy youngs did opine: > > >> gene >> this is what jon offers and i am salivating over :) >> http://pico-systems.com/osc2.5/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=26 >> > > I can see why, but two things: The minimum PWM freq of 25khz

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
jeremy youngs wrote: > gene > this is what jon offers and i am salivating over :) > http://pico-systems.com/osc2.5/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=26 > > i figure if using rectified line voltage it would give about 3 hp out of my > 2.5, with fan to cool it and would only need an isolation tra

Re: [Emc-users] How about a 1Ghz PIII for 2 axis?

2013-04-30 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 03:49:00PM -0700, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Picked up a Dell Dimension L100R for free. Has parallel and > serial ports, 1 Ghz Socket 370 PIII with 512K cache (better than > the 256K version) and will have 512 meg PC133 once I find another > 256 meg stick it likes. I have a c

Re: [Emc-users] How about a 1Ghz PIII for 2 axis?

2013-04-30 Thread Kent Reed
On Apr 30, 2013 6:56 PM, "Gregg Eshelman" wrote: > > Picked up a Dell Dimension L100R for free. Has parallel and serial ports, 1 Ghz Socket 370 PIII with 512K cache (better than the 256K version) and will have 512 meg PC133 once I find another 256 meg stick it likes. I have a couple it sees as on

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:25:05 -0400, you wrote: >On Tuesday 30 April 2013 12:06:13 Cecil Thomas did opine: > >> Gene, >> You need to remember that the seemingly high hp ratings of these >> relatively small motors is due to the very high rpms at which the >> ratings are valid. >> These 1 1/2 to 2 hp

[Emc-users] How about a 1Ghz PIII for 2 axis?

2013-04-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Picked up a Dell Dimension L100R for free. Has parallel and serial ports, 1 Ghz Socket 370 PIII with 512K cache (better than the 256K version) and will have 512 meg PC133 once I find another 256 meg stick it likes. I have a couple it sees as only 32 meg. (512 is max for this model.) I put an 8

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Tue, 4/30/13, John Kasunich wrote: > From: John Kasunich > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 12:56 PM > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013, at 02:14 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > > SCR dc drives?  Is this the 70

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread sam sokolik
Speak of the devil...? http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general_electronics_discussion/178760-poll_treadmill_motors_information_wanted.html sam On 04/30/2013 12:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 30 April 2013 13:15:33 andy pugh did opine: > >> On 30 April 2013 16:56, Cecil Thomas wrote: >>> T

Re: [Emc-users] cnc this

2013-04-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Tue, 4/30/13, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: > Looks like a cool antique > Brain fart, http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/3768221480.html It's a 9" Model C Workshop lathe. Model C because it has no gearbox or power feeds. I don't see bottom oilers sticking out the front of the headstock, b

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Eric Keller
We have a scrapyard nearby that has a lot of very large motors, but I think they might be from trains and there is an obvious size limit on those. The ones you describe seem bigger. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dave wrote: > There are more large motors like that around than you might suspe

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 April 2013 21:50, Kent A. Reed wrote: > Every few years one research group or another issues a breathless > press release about its laboratory "breakthrough" which will > revolutionize battery technology (searching the Internet on "electric > battery breakthrough" is instructive). There hav

Re: [Emc-users] ABB Robots in Sweden

2013-04-30 Thread Sven Wesley
I've been trying to get an ABB for a long time with no success. If Lars isn't taking it further I might be interested. /Sven 2013/4/29 Lars Andersson > Oh yes, > I would be interested in an old ABB robot for a reasonable price. I live > within easy travel distace from ABB if the robots are ther

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Dave
There are more large motors like that around than you might suspect. The local Omnisource scrap yard had a 6000 hp motor blow and they replaced it with a bigger motor. I think 8000 hp. They shred cars and whatever else they can fit into it. I went to an aluminum recycling place once that needed

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/30/2013 3:20 PM, Pete Matos wrote: > I also find it > interesting that there is so much resistance to electric vehicles in the > world when so many of the largest and most powerful vehicles are moved with > electric power. In a word, batteries. Back in the 1970s the weak link in the natio

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Dave
On 4/30/2013 2:08 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013, at 01:37 PM, Dave wrote: > >> You will have $3-400 into a 10 hp phase converter in no time. (I have >> put a few together). If you need three phase for other things.. go the >> phase converter route and see how that works.

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Pete Matos wrote: > John > That is amazing to me mani mean I have seen some monster electric > motors before but 3k HP is nutz .. There's an industrial shredder in New Jersey rated at 10,000 hp. They have to turn it on and off at night on weekends bec

[Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Pete Matos
John That is amazing to me mani mean I have seen some monster electric motors before but 3k HP is nutz .. I know the motors they used on the draw bridges in South Florida where I used to live were big DC I believe and they lifted some amazing loads via counterbalance and gearing.

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013, at 02:14 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > SCR dc drives? Is this the 70's? > > LOL. Im kidding. But only partially:) > > SMD For anything more than a few HP, SCRs still rule the DC drive world. I guess the toy stuff, under 1HP, is all PWM based these days. Small but not t

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
SCR dc drives? Is this the 70's? LOL. Im kidding. But only partially:) SMD On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013, at 01:37 PM, Dave wrote: > > You will have $3-400 into a 10 hp phase converter in no time. (I have > > put a few together). If you n

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013, at 01:37 PM, Dave wrote: > You will have $3-400 into a 10 hp phase converter in no time. (I have > put a few together). If you need three phase for other things.. go the > phase converter route and see how that works. > > If you are going to run the lathe a lot, I woul

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Dave
You will have $3-400 into a 10 hp phase converter in no time. (I have put a few together). If you need three phase for other things.. go the phase converter route and see how that works. If you are going to run the lathe a lot, I would look for a relatively new Industrial DC drive that is co

Re: [Emc-users] cnc this

2013-04-30 Thread Eric Keller
we had 2 of those 9" southbends in my lab for quite some time until I finally got rid of them. Pretty nice lathes, they look more obsolete than they actually are. Although parting off something was a frustration. I tried to buy one, but it didn't work out. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Da

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 April 2013 13:15:33 andy pugh did opine: > On 30 April 2013 16:56, Cecil Thomas wrote: > > These 1 1/2 to 2 hp motors develop that hp at 5000 to 6000 rpm. You > > will have to rethink your drive coupling system to reduce that speed > > down to something usable especially for thread

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit: ready-to-run SD card image

2013-04-30 Thread andy pugh
On 29 April 2013 19:16, Matt Shaver wrote: > I feel the need to defend the Pi, Cubie, Olimex, et al boards, since it > appears that no one else will :) Something else that is already out there (and a few of us were given samples of) is: http://www.roboard.com/ncbox-189.html Which is x86 but also

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 April 2013 12:52:04 jeremy youngs did opine: > gene > this is what jon offers and i am salivating over :) > http://pico-systems.com/osc2.5/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=26 I can see why, but two things: The minimum PWM freq of 25khz, and the 12 volt enable. I don't have a

Re: [Emc-users] cnc this

2013-04-30 Thread jeremy youngs
solider than the chinese junk though :) On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Dave wrote: > I have a friend who bought one of those as they are collectors items for > those who wish to collect old machines.. > > He paid well over $500 for a box full of parts along with some broken > gears.. and n

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread jeremy youngs
thats a fisher paykel washing machine motor no? let us know how that works On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 30 April 2013 16:56, Cecil Thomas wrote: > > > These 1 1/2 to 2 hp motors develop that hp at 5000 to 6000 rpm. You > > will have to rethink your drive coupling sy

Re: [Emc-users] cnc this

2013-04-30 Thread Dave
I have a friend who bought one of those as they are collectors items for those who wish to collect old machines.. He paid well over $500 for a box full of parts along with some broken gears.. and no tooling at all. I tried to stay positive when he told me that. Dave On 4/30/2013 11:51 AM, kq

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 April 2013 16:56, Cecil Thomas wrote: > These 1 1/2 to 2 hp motors develop that hp at 5000 to 6000 rpm. You > will have to rethink your drive coupling system to reduce that speed > down to something usable especially for threading. Which is why I fancy experimenting with this: https://plu

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread jeremy youngs
gene this is what jon offers and i am salivating over :) http://pico-systems.com/osc2.5/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=26 i figure if using rectified line voltage it would give about 3 hp out of my 2.5, with fan to cool it and would only need an isolation transformer for safety, once i am b

Re: [Emc-users] warning on the Beaglebone LinuxCNC starterkit :-/

2013-04-30 Thread Dave
I'm not big into adapters either for the same reason.. http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Male-Cable-1-3V-33AWG/dp/B0040ZTH2I/ref=sr_1_8?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1367338738&sr=8-8&keywords=micro+hdmi+to+hdmi+adapter $5.83 and "free shipping" if you have a "Prime" account. I went "Prime" after buying som

Re: [Emc-users] cnc this

2013-04-30 Thread jeremy youngs
yes cnc that :) On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM, wrote: > Looks like a cool antique > Brain fart, http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/3768221480.html > > > -- > Introducing AppDynamics Lite, a free troubleshooting too

Re: [Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 April 2013 12:06:13 Cecil Thomas did opine: > Gene, > You need to remember that the seemingly high hp ratings of these > relatively small motors is due to the very high rpms at which the > ratings are valid. > These 1 1/2 to 2 hp motors develop that hp at 5000 to 6000 rpm. You > wil

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 April 2013 12:03:09 jeremy youngs did opine: > gene here is a bit more variety > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC2&_nk > w=treadmill+motor&_sacat=0&_from=R40 > Thanks Jeremy, I just now bid on a 1 horse full kit. Play toys maybe, but a learning t

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 April 2013 11:33:32 jeremy youngs did opine: > one of them had a flatted 5/8 shaft, the other it was pressed on. > if you remove the flywheel you have to put a fan on it , if you will run > it slow a fan is probably a good idea , i just used an old pc fan. > there are several motors

[Emc-users] treamill motors (was converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-04-30 Thread Cecil Thomas
Gene, You need to remember that the seemingly high hp ratings of these relatively small motors is due to the very high rpms at which the ratings are valid. These 1 1/2 to 2 hp motors develop that hp at 5000 to 6000 rpm. You will have to rethink your drive coupling system to reduce that speed d

[Emc-users] cnc this

2013-04-30 Thread kqt4at5v
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Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread jeremy youngs
gene here is a bit more variety http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC2&_nkw=treadmill+motor&_sacat=0&_from=R40 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:55 AM, jeremy youngs wrote: > one of them had a flatted 5/8 shaft, the other it was pressed on. > if you remove the flywheel you

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread jeremy youngs
one of them had a flatted 5/8 shaft, the other it was pressed on. if you remove the flywheel you have to put a fan on it , if you will run it slow a fan is probably a good idea , i just used an old pc fan. there are several motors for around 40 bucks, as to the reverse feature i haver thoughyt of b

Re: [Emc-users] converting Monarch 10EE

2013-04-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 April 2013 04:10:18 jeremy youngs did opine: > gene did say > The day of picking up a > defunct treadmill, or a surplus motor from one, seem to now be in the > distant past, with one that I saw on fleabay, clearly well abused, 6 > months ago that still had 3 days to go and was above