Re: [Emc-users] Soft starting my mills spindle supply

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 14 December 2015 20:51:46 andy pugh wrote: > > As I reported, I have 4 of them coming. > > The forcibly guided relay for mine arrived today, so I finished > assembling the PSU and then drew a schematic of what I ended up with. > > I am using the physical relay to ensure that I can't poss

Re: [Emc-users] Soft starting my mills spindle supply

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 14 December 2015 20:51:46 andy pugh wrote: > > As I reported, I have 4 of them coming. > > The forcibly guided relay for mine arrived today, so I finished > assembling the PSU and then drew a schematic of what I ended up with. > > I am using the physical relay to ensure that I can't poss

Re: [Emc-users] Optoisolater timings (was: Z axis stepper gradually losing position)

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 14 December 2015 19:11:49 Jerry Scharf wrote: > Hi, > > Just did a super quick google search and came up with a fairchild > optocoupler hcpl2530 that will do 1Mbps. ~1.80 USD quantity 1. > Isolation to 480v and good common mode rejection. There are a number > of devices in similar and be

Re: [Emc-users] Soft starting my mills spindle supply

2015-12-14 Thread andy pugh
> As I reported, I have 4 of them coming. The forcibly guided relay for mine arrived today, so I finished assembling the PSU and then drew a schematic of what I ended up with. I am using the physical relay to ensure that I can't possibly power the system up with the discharge resistor in circuit.

Re: [Emc-users] Optoisolater timings (was: Z axis stepper gradually losing position)

2015-12-14 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
FWIW, the iCoupler type things from ADI and Silicon Devices are faster, cheaper, better isolation, and lower powered than high speed optos. win, win, win, win;) On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Jerry Scharf wrote: > Hi, > > Just did a super quick google search and came up with a fairchild > opt

Re: [Emc-users] Z axis stepper gradually losing position

2015-12-14 Thread Jerry Scharf
Gene, I hear what you are saying about old hands and working on boards. I am only pushing 60, but the company I work for regularly uses 0201 smt devices. Too damn small for these hands, even with the slickest working microscope out there. Just pumping the solder on and putting the thing in place i

Re: [Emc-users] Optoisolater timings (was: Z axis stepper gradually losing position)

2015-12-14 Thread Jerry Scharf
Hi, Just did a super quick google search and came up with a fairchild optocoupler hcpl2530 that will do 1Mbps. ~1.80 USD quantity 1. Isolation to 480v and good common mode rejection. There are a number of devices in similar and better speeds. That's not anywhere near the top speed for laser/detec

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread John Thornton
No, I've seen that and could not get it to work. Too complicated for the job anyway. On 12/14/2015 11:49 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2015-12-14 14:32 GMT+02:00 John Thornton : >> Crumb, I hit delete on your reply and it does not show up in the trash >> folder... which probe screen are you talkin

Re: [Emc-users] Soft starting my mills spindle supply

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 13 December 2015 16:39:16 andy pugh wrote: > On 13 December 2015 at 11:01, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Feed the cap bank through a resistor. > >> Use a (cheap $5) solid state relay to bypass that resistor when > >> LinuxCNC is turned on. > > > > I had largely discounted that idea because t

Re: [Emc-users] Optoisolater timings (was: Z axis stepper gradually losing position)

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 14 December 2015 16:01:26 Ben Potter wrote: > > Note that those setup and hold times are relative to the riseing > > edge of > > the (step?) pulse, and the next line is not so specific, but I expect > it needs to be checked by a dual trace scope for both > > > conditions > > I'm very tem

Re: [Emc-users] Probe

2015-12-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-12-14 22:51 GMT+02:00 Andrew : > Viesturs, there are no more probes listed right now. > Though yesterday it was available http://www.ebay.com/itm/151911730211 > Apparently sold just recently. Thank you! Viesturs --

Re: [Emc-users] Optoisolater timings (was: Z axis stepper gradually losing position)

2015-12-14 Thread Ben Potter
> Note that those setup and hold times are relative to the riseing edge of the (step?) pulse, and the next line is not so specific, but I expect it needs to be checked by a dual trace scope for both > conditions I'm very tempted to pull the G540 from the router and rig up a test bench test to s

Re: [Emc-users] Probe

2015-12-14 Thread Andrew
2015-12-14 21:21 GMT+02:00 Viesturs Lācis : > Thanks, I should clarify - not that dumb to miss that link, but still > looking for _ebay_ store. > Viesturs, there are no more probes listed right now. Though yesterday it was available http://www.ebay.com/itm/151911730211 Apparently sold just recent

Re: [Emc-users] Soft starting my mills spindle supply

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 13 December 2015 16:39:16 andy pugh wrote: > On 13 December 2015 at 11:01, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Feed the cap bank through a resistor. > >> Use a (cheap $5) solid state relay to bypass that resistor when > >> LinuxCNC is turned on. > > > > I had largely discounted that idea because t

Re: [Emc-users] Z axis stepper gradually losing position (opto coupler speed)

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 13 December 2015 14:56:11 Karlsson & Wang wrote: > > ... > > I take it you do not have any opto-isolation in those 3 paths. That > > 700 ns is pushing an opto's ability to switch that fast. The BoB I > > used was all opto, and I was warned about its speed by someone > > (Steve Stalling

Re: [Emc-users] Z axis stepper gradually losing position

2015-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 13 December 2015 14:39:19 Ben Potter wrote: > > > When going through my testing for this the first time I cranked > > > all 4 settings up to 10,000 - the problem still occurred. After I > > > tried inverting the output I slowly stepped them back down - for > > > my G540 I settled on 700/

Re: [Emc-users] Probe

2015-12-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Thanks, I should clarify - not that dumb to miss that link, but still looking for _ebay_ store. Viesturs 2015-12-14 21:07 GMT+02:00 : > http://kurokesu.com/main/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Viesturs Lācis [mailto:viesturs.la...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:41 AM >

Re: [Emc-users] Probe

2015-12-14 Thread linuxcnc
http://kurokesu.com/main/ -Original Message- From: Viesturs Lācis [mailto:viesturs.la...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:41 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Probe 2015-12-14 0:51 GMT+02:00 Andrew : > 2015-12-14 0:41 GMT+02:00 John Thornton :

Re: [Emc-users] Probe

2015-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2015 at 17:51, Jack Coats wrote: > http://stores.ebay.com/imsrv That seems to be in Michigan. Lithuania would suit Viesturs rather better, I suspect. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -

Re: [Emc-users] Probe

2015-12-14 Thread Jack Coats
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > Hardened steel touch probe with rubby stylus for CNC machines http://stores.ebay.com/imsrv Is where I saw several different sizes. -- ><> ... Jack The Four Boxes of Liberty - "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of libert

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-12-14 14:32 GMT+02:00 John Thornton : > Crumb, I hit delete on your reply and it does not show up in the trash > folder... which probe screen are you talking about? Andy posted this link (if you were asking for it): https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/49-basic-configuration/29187-work-with-prob

Re: [Emc-users] Probe

2015-12-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-12-14 0:51 GMT+02:00 Andrew : > 2015-12-14 0:41 GMT+02:00 John Thornton : > >> I saw that on in my search. Looks like a nice one, wonder where he is from? >> >> "*Hardened steel touch probe with rubby stylus for CNC machines*" > > > Lithuania > Free worldwide shipping though. And best offer av

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread John Thornton
http://gnipsel.com/files/emc/probing.zip On 12/14/2015 7:08 AM, Sarah Armstrong wrote: > send cradeks probe stuff , not seen them they may be better > > > On 14 December 2015 at 13:03, John Thornton wrote: > >> Just looking at the probe routines in the samples and I find a couple of >> surface ma

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread Sarah Armstrong
send cradeks probe stuff , not seen them they may be better On 14 December 2015 at 13:03, John Thornton wrote: > Just looking at the probe routines in the samples and I find a couple of > surface mapping routines and a subroutine probe-hole.ngc with no > comments so not sure what it does. Tom j

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread John Thornton
Just looking at the probe routines in the samples and I find a couple of surface mapping routines and a subroutine probe-hole.ngc with no comments so not sure what it does. Tom just shared Cradek's probe routines so I'll look at them for a bit. JT On 12/14/2015 6:41 AM, Sarah Armstrong wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread Sarah Armstrong
it looks as if it's the same package you have looked at . done by the guys over on the russian site theirs some probe stuff in the ngc folder . i have some too that might help , i'll dig them and emails shortly all being well On 14 December 2015 at 12:32, John Thornton wrote: > Crumb, I hit del

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread John Thornton
Crumb, I hit delete on your reply and it does not show up in the trash folder... which probe screen are you talking about? JT On 12/14/2015 6:02 AM, John Thornton wrote: > With a probe on the way and after viewing a few probe screens which seem > to all be way to complicated for the job it made

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread John Thornton
Yes, I attempted to get it to work but failed to do so and yes way to complicated with all the .axisrc additions. I also was annoyed by the size of it, every time I go to that tab half is not there so you have to make the screen bigger... it was late last night when I tried. All the cool graphi

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2015 at 12:02, John Thornton wrote: > With a probe on the way and after viewing a few probe screens which seem > to all be way to complicated for the job it made me wonder what > practical probing routines people would actually use on a mill to > machine parts with. I have the prob

Re: [Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread Sarah Armstrong
have you looked at probe_screen , it's all their On 14 December 2015 at 12:02, John Thornton wrote: > With a probe on the way and after viewing a few probe screens which seem > to all be way to complicated for the job it made me wonder what > practical probing routines people would actually use

[Emc-users] Practical Probing Routines

2015-12-14 Thread John Thornton
With a probe on the way and after viewing a few probe screens which seem to all be way to complicated for the job it made me wonder what practical probing routines people would actually use on a mill to machine parts with. I came up with a few but having never probed a part I'm looking for inpu