Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions wanted - how to control robot

2017-03-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman
What about thinking more 'old school', like how manually operated tools on turret lathes were developed to be automated? Your grinding process has a few repetitive steps. Unload part from carousel.Load into clamp.Grind.Turn part over.Grind.Unload part from clamp.Reload into carousel. If this is

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions wanted - how to control robot

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
I was thinking the same thing. If the carousel is not yet designed then build it such that only a simple translation(s) is required to load the part., no rotation. The reason you buy the general purpose robot other then the simpler automation is that you expect to have other jobs in the future.

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 18:37:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 16 March 2017 13:48:51 sam sokolik wrote: > > The stepgens (both in mesa and the software) have their own > > acceleration setting. you want this to be 20 to 30% higher than > > the motion planners acceleration. (when using th

Re: [Emc-users] Those $20 80mm hand dials at MPJA.com

2017-03-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/16/2017 12:36 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > eBay item number 141823454594 > > Or search for "hand wheel encoder" (no quotes) it will turn up quite > a few and some of them are black color rather than the bare aluminum > color if you would prefer that. > > I'm wondering these were not intended

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions wanted - how to control robot

2017-03-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 March 2017 at 14:40, Andy Evans wrote: > Grip a part from a magazine (Think 35mm slide carousel) Maybe use the exact same mechanism as a slide carousel? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions wanted - how to control robot

2017-03-16 Thread Dave Cole
If you are buying a new robot then you won't need or want to use LCNC to control it. There is a big difference in robot controls. Look carefully. As mentioned most robot companies will do a simulation for you and make recommendations. If this is for a production machine you need to consid

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 13:48:51 sam sokolik wrote: > The stepgens (both in mesa and the software) have their own > acceleration setting. you want this to be 20 to 30% higher than the > motion planners acceleration. (when using the stepgen's in position > mode) > Humm. I believe I have that

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions wanted - how to control robot

2017-03-16 Thread John Kasunich
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Andy Evans wrote: > > We are thinking that we need a small industrial robot (Mitsubishi, > Fanuc) with .002" or so accuracy. The fixture will do some > self-aligning of the part as it is clamped. Does anyone have any > recommendations and sources for a su

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread sam sokolik
The stepgens (both in mesa and the software) have their own acceleration setting. you want this to be 20 to 30% higher than the motion planners acceleration. (when using the stepgen's in position mode) when using high latency systems - then it is best to run the stepgens in velocity mode wit

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions wanted - how to control robot

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
One of the most important specs for a robot is the degrees of freedom. If you need to specify the orientation AND location of the end effector you need at least 6 DOF. You can use fewer if you can redefine the problem. What people do today, and you should do to is SIMULATEthe robot before you

Re: [Emc-users] Those $20 80mm hand dials at MPJA.com

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
eBay item number 141823454594 Or search for "hand wheel encoder" (no quotes) it will turn up quite a few and some of them are black color rather than the bare aluminum color if you would prefer that. I'm wondering these were not intended to be used on an electronic safe as a combination lock.

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> > > > > > There are no pid's used in this configuration Jon. Nor is > > > > > > there a base-thread. Till now I haven't missed them. > > > > > > > > > > How do you get a following error without PID? > > > > > > > > The difference between actual or measured position and position > > > > reference

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 12:08:38 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > > On 03/15/2017 11:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > There are no pid's used in this configuration Jon. Nor is > > > > > there a base-thread. Till now I haven't missed them. > > > > > > > > How do you get a following error without

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc on udoo x86 / udoo x86 ultra was linuxcnc on raspberry pi 3

2017-03-16 Thread Abdul Rahman Riza
Hi All, Has anyone used udoo x86 for linuxcnc? I really want to use the best combination for 3 axis milling cnc. Thanks On 02/21/2017 02:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 21 February 2017 01:56:45 Erik Christiansen wrote: > >> On 21.02.17 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> If perchance this m

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> > > On 03/15/2017 11:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > There are no pid's used in this configuration Jon. Nor is > > > > there a base-thread. Till now I haven't missed them. > > > > > > How do you get a following error without PID? > > > > The difference between actual or measured position and p

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions wanted - how to control robot

2017-03-16 Thread Andy Evans
Folks, I really appreciate the replies I've gotten here. You've helped me gain a much better picture of what will be involved. Our forecasts and budget analysis leads me to believe that we could seriously use this robot within the next year, based on what it will take to put into place. To st

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 09:27:13 andy pugh wrote: > On 16 March 2017 at 11:56, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Would it perhaps be a > > little more convenient to have an encoder at the motor, as well as > > the one on the spindle, and let HAL compute the gear from the ratio? > > https://forum.li

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 07:56:58 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 16.03.17 06:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Maybe its ready for the next stage, which is installing a 4plex of > > IR belt detectors so linuxcnc can know what gear the belts are in, > > and if I ask for 1000 spindle rpms, it might sugges

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 March 2017 at 11:56, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Would it perhaps be a > little more convenient to have an encoder at the motor, as well as the > one on the spindle, and let HAL compute the gear from the ratio? https://forum.linuxcnc.org/47-hal-examples/27071-automatic-spindle-gear-detection

Re: [Emc-users] Those $20 80mm hand dials at MPJA.com

2017-03-16 Thread Ken Strauss
I must be searching wrong. Could you please supply a link or auction number? > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 3:58 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Those $20 80mm hand dials

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.03.17 06:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > Maybe its ready for the next stage, which is installing a 4plex of IR > belt detectors so linuxcnc can know what gear the belts are in, and if I > ask for 1000 spindle rpms, it might suggest a better belt position to > get the motor back into its prime po

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 01:02:10 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > On 03/15/2017 11:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > There are no pid's used in this configuration Jon. Nor is > > > there a base-thread. Till now I haven't missed them. > > > > How do you get a following error without PID? > > The differ

Re: [Emc-users] Possible simplification of my code

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 15 March 2017 22:58:58 Jon Elson wrote: > On 03/15/2017 11:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > There are no pid's used in this configuration Jon. Nor is > > there a base-thread. Till now I haven't missed them. > > How do you get a following error without PID? The only way > I know of is w

Re: [Emc-users] Those $20 80mm hand dials at MPJA.com

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
These wheels, it seems are NOT a one time surplus deal. I notice now they are all over eBay. Many sellers are offering them. Best current price is $14.49 with free shipping. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one