Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread Steve Stallings
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of paul_c > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:57 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He > Subscribes? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 16 March 2007, Ray Henry wrote: >I suggest that we let Paul do the audit and we keep working on >abilities. As I've said before, I am completely opposed to a GPL only >or project wide license. > >Ray > Then let me play the devils advocate here for a few words, Ray. Does it not bother yo

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:17:47PM -0500, Ray Henry wrote: > > I suggest that we let Paul do the audit and we keep working on > abilities. As I've said before, I am completely opposed to a GPL only > or project wide license. > > Ray It's clear that opinions about this vary. Putting non-Free cod

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:44:41PM -0400, Matthew Glenn Shaver wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 15:56 +, paul_c wrote: > > src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/togl.c > > This software is copyrighted by Brian Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and > Benjamin Bederson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The following terms

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread Matthew Glenn Shaver
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 15:56 +, paul_c wrote: > src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/togl.c This software is copyrighted by Brian Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and Benjamin Bederson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The following terms apply to all files associated with the software unless explicitly disclaimed in

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread Ray Henry
I suggest that we let Paul do the audit and we keep working on abilities. As I've said before, I am completely opposed to a GPL only or project wide license. Ray On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 15:56 +, paul_c wrote: > On Friday 16 March 2007 14:10, John Kasunich wrote: > > Accusing EMC2 of containin

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread paul_c
On Friday 16 March 2007 14:10, John Kasunich wrote: > Accusing EMC2 of containing non-GPL code without pointing to the > specific files in question is a perfect example of FUD. Fer... You want to be able to make these claims, then I suggest you start conducting regular audits. A small selection,

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread John Kasunich
paul_c wrote: > "emc2 contains non-GPL code" Regarding FUD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt A quote from that entry: > Certainly if an individual were stopped and accused of shoplifting > after walking out of Neiman Marcus they would expect to be eventually > told

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread John Kasunich
Dale wrote: > I certainly did not consider my statement to be an attack on anyone or > anything! Definitly not intended that way! Understood. You were obviously pleased with the current state of EMC. But by stating that the original EMC was a POS, you unintentionally (I hope) insulted the wo

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread Dale
Jon, Fear - anyone that claims they have no fear is either a liar or a fool. Uncertainty - it's a part of life get used to it, Life - what happens while we are making other plans. Doubt - some of that is a good thing as in don't believe everything you hear or read. I have nothing to fea

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-16 Thread paul_c
On Friday 16 March 2007 03:44, Jon Elson wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 19:01, Dale wrote: > >You can email me directly if you care to expand on what "FUD" means. > Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt -- something naysayers spread to disparage > something they don't want to succeed. A cudgel used to den

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Jon Elson
Dale wrote: >Hey Jon, > >Don't forget to read the rest of what I wrote and not the tiny little >snippet that Ray quoted. > Curiously, Ray's response beat your original message to the server by 10 minutes, so I saw his snipped reply first. > I admit that "POS" may have been a bit harsh. > > I

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Dale wrote: >Hey Jon, > >Don't forget to read the rest of what I wrote and not the tiny little >snippet that Ray quoted. I admit that "POS" may have been a bit harsh. >So that you know where I came from I was used to the latest & greatest. >And since you brought it up I w

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Dale
Hey Jon, Don't forget to read the rest of what I wrote and not the tiny little snippet that Ray quoted. I admit that "POS" may have been a bit harsh. So that you know where I came from I was used to the latest & greatest. And since you brought it up I was running NC machines starting back in 1

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Jon Elson
Ray Henry wrote: >On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 08:26 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > >>EMC >>was basicaly a POS full of garbage, bugs. >> >> Yes, there's a lot of "FUD" flying around. People who won't take the time to learn something new say it is garbage, to cover up their unwillingness to find out

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Ray Henry wrote: >On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 08:26 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> EMC >> was basicaly a POS full of garbage, bugs. > >I know a few pretty smart folk at The National Institute for Standards >and Technology and a others in the machine tool industry that might take >of

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Dale
No offense intended! It got the job done. You have to admit EMC has come a long way. BTW that quote was out of context and makes it look like I'm bashing EMC which is not the case, and I actually praise EMC and ALL the developers!!! My first cd was from you Ray. BDI 2.04 I think. Please don't

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Ray Henry
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 08:26 -0500, Dale wrote: > EMC > was basicaly a POS full of garbage, bugs. I know a few pretty smart folk at The National Institute for Standards and Technology and a others in the machine tool industry that might take offense. Rayh ---

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-15 Thread Dale
Welcome. When I first ventured down the path of building my own machine. EMC was basicaly a POS full of garbage, bugs. It was still the closest thing I could find to a real machine control. It has come a long way since then and I thank All the developers for their hard work. EMC is the best c

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-14 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: >Chris Radek wrote: > > > >>My "source", who works in the recycling business, uses this method >>to collect them for me: >> >>1) Hold Deskjet at about head level, or a little higher >>2) Accelerate Deskjet downward toward concrete at 10m/s^2 or more >>3) Locate and pick up n

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-14 Thread Dale
That's called being practical. Fewer tools to mess with too. Dale John Kasunich wrote: > Chris Radek wrote: > > >>My "source", who works in the recycling business, uses this method >>to collect them for me: >> >>1) Hold Deskjet at about head level, or a little higher >>2) Accelerate Deskjet dow

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-14 Thread John Kasunich
Chris Radek wrote: > My "source", who works in the recycling business, uses this method > to collect them for me: > > 1) Hold Deskjet at about head level, or a little higher > 2) Accelerate Deskjet downward toward concrete at 10m/s^2 or more > 3) Locate and pick up nice servo and belt > 4) Separa

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-14 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:36:53AM -0500, Jake von Slatt wrote: > I do now! > > Thanks for the invite, the archives have already answered several lingering > questions for me. > > Cheers, > > Jake. Welcome Jake, I also have a small collection of those servos from the original Deskjets. They a

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-14 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Matt: regarding > >http://steampunkworkshop.com/cnc-ecm.shtml I bet a lot of people will miss that he was using ECM electrochemical machining with EMC enhanced machine control because the two names are so similar TomP ---

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Matthew Glenn Shaver wrote: >Just surfing around and found this mention of EMC2: > >http://steampunkworkshop.com/cnc-ecm.shtml > >He could have picked any software, but he chose ours! I always like it >when that happens... > >Matt And it appears he has that other attrib

Re: [Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-14 Thread Jake von Slatt
I do now! Thanks for the invite, the archives have already answered several lingering questions for me. Cheers, Jake. -- Original Message --- From: Matthew Glenn Shaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02

[Emc-users] Another Potential User - I Wonder If He Subscribes?

2007-03-13 Thread Matthew Glenn Shaver
Just surfing around and found this mention of EMC2: http://steampunkworkshop.com/cnc-ecm.shtml He could have picked any software, but he chose ours! I always like it when that happens... Matt - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Infl